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Is Miami now open source ?
« on: February 17, 2003, 09:34:24 AM »
The title says it all, really.


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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2003, 09:40:40 AM »
No, and probably never will be.

What made you think so?
 

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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2003, 09:59:15 AM »
I'd like to get MiamiDX registered
Is it still possible ?
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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2003, 10:05:17 AM »
No, it isn't possible to register. :-( I tried several times over a year ago.. Failed every time. The author no longer replies to email enquiries either.
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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2003, 10:27:25 AM »
Last i heard Holger was also having problems with his A3000 and thats the reasons the register database is down! besides he was sick of the whole Amiga market and i doubt he wants to give something back to it! then again someone could offer him a nice sum and buy his A3000 and whats on the HD :-).

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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2003, 10:37:54 AM »
I think that's really sucky behaviour for a software vendor.  SASG don't respond to sales orders now either, so I'm stuck with an evaluation copy of MagicCX :(
 

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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2003, 11:43:52 AM »
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mikeymike wrote:
I think that's really sucky behaviour for a software vendor.  


I think in Miami/MiamiDX you haveto blame H&P for F*** things up. I have no proof (was not there) but what I understand there WAS supposed to be Full version of Miami on OS3.X upgrades. but apparently they let him down and after that Kruse stopped working with Amigas alltogether. (similar to Bill Hawes'es Arexx and many other promicing developers).

And if it had stopped with H&P.. but no..  :-(
 

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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2003, 02:06:49 PM »
For promising coders within the Amiga Community that was screwed over by Hack&Patch, don't forget Bernd's name on the list.  It will be a good day when H&P leaves the Amiga community.  Then we maybe able to get a proper body count of developers killed off by H&P.

Boycott all H&P products!

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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2003, 02:11:16 PM »
its kinda weird really, as its abandonware , and its impossible to find/contact holger.

and there is like (ATLEAST) 300 people out there who wants to register miamidX still, i think alot of the people out there still share the same opinion as me, miamiDX should be abandonware and free by now, its gone 3 years since we heard anything, and its still the best tcp/stack around (atleast of the released ones).

someone should do some more research, to just make an example, if this had been on PC or mac then this would have been rated as abandonware 2 years ago.

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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2003, 02:18:03 PM »
I think this is a sad behaviour.
If you no longer intend to support your software and make money from it, you might as well release it for free.

If you don't want to open source it that's fine put at least put a keyfile up on your website if you don't accept any more registrations!

SASG doesn't even have a text on their home page announcing that registrations won't be accepted!

I have also tried to contact both Holger Kruse and Stefan Stuntz/SASG several times, asking about registrations etc. I haven't recieved any answers.
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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2003, 02:36:02 PM »
Its really annoying when it happens like with Miami/Mui etc but when you stop and think about it after all its the software authors programm/game/whatever and unless it specialy says something in the license he is free to do wtf he wants to do and end it or kill it when he see fit even if its bad for "potential" customers! the regged customers already have theyre versions only crapy thing for them is the perhaps promised updates if there was any.

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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2003, 02:43:07 PM »
Another thing that causes authors to abandon the Amiga so suddenly is piracy. No pointing any elbows.
 

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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2003, 02:45:32 PM »
@dammy

I agree, H&P are just a nasty rash on the name Amiga,

Do those guys actually do anything for the Amiga? apart from shafting developers.
 

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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2003, 03:12:34 PM »
About MUI: Contact an active developer that works within MUI.  For instance, Vapor.  To my understanding Stefan Stuntz is still active in the community--just low keyed.

@Miami: There isn't much I can say about that.  The last I heard of Holger was that he no longer worked for Rebol--and that was the end of the subject :-/
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Re: Is Miami now open source ?
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2003, 06:02:37 PM »
See, what it is is I am in the process of resurrecting my Amiga and will have a bash at the internet. Thing is, the last time I had a go at the internet with my Amigas the TCP/IP program I used for access wouldn't work with my Freeserve account, the thing just kept crashing - it's the one that came with Netconnect 3. So, I went back to using Miami, a registered copy, but, whenever I entered the registration key into Miami, the damn thing also crashed. Without the key, in demo mode, it works fine but, as you will all know, the demo mode only lasts for half an hour before disconnecting and this, after a while, becomes a little annoying. Anyway, I had a look at the Aminet site to see if Miami was still posted up there and had a look at the readme, without actually downloading the Miami program. As there was nothing in the readme to indicate that the version on Aminet was/is/isn't/was not a demo I was just wondering. Anyway, as the replies indicate, obviously Miami isn't open source so the next question is - Is there an open source TCP/IP program hanging around somewhere that I could use in preference to my Miami program ?


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Sam