MorphOS has been killed from a grassy knoll

[Conspirator]

Found this in my snooping. 10 to 1 odds that BBRV will say that it's not only David Gerber's fault that he didn't get paid, but David Gerber's fault for killing MorphOS. Note the date in the URL of 11/23.

http://www.genesi.lu/press.php?date=20041123

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Frankfurt, Germany -- Genesi announced today that it would no longer directly support third party or external MorphOS development. "We will continue to develop MorphOS internally for embedded markets and specific projects using the 1.4 release," stated Gerald Carda, CTO of Genesi.
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(Interestingly, "the word" around IRC-land is that BBRV is using David as an excuse to dump MorphOS and has already entered talks with HYPErion to put AmigaOS on the Pegasos).

MorphOS Rulz!

-C

[x56h34]

Deja Vu? Didn't this thread already get deleted? Or could it be that I've AGAIN entered that time wormhole, by mistake?

Conspirator,

This thread has already been removed but I will allow it because it was, and IMHO still is a valid post.  The original thread was deleted accidentally by a moderator who clicked on the wrong icon.  If this thread gets out of hand, I will lock it, but as of now, the post remains.

As I said, had I not personally witnessed the URL in question (pre-damage control), I would not have allowed the post in the first place, so I would ask that you not perpetually ignore the guidelines of posting here.

As it stands however, I agree with the other person in the former thread that this is a typical tactic by BBRV to threaten certain people to "toe the line or get screwed" (which sounds very familiar to me).  I also agree with the idea that he's using the situation to drop MorphOS and have David Gerber as "the fall guy" for it all.

I do hope that despite this rumor, KMOS/Hyperion weren't stupid enough to go into any sort of deal with Bill Buck after everything that's happened, because I don't want to see anyone screwed in this situation, least of all the MorphOS team.  Whether or not you like MorphOS is irrelevant.  The team itself (the innocents in all of this) produced a tight little OS and for that they should at least have your respect, if not your approval.

Wayne

[seer]

And we're back..

The team itself (the innocents in all of this) produced a tight little OS and for that they should at least have your respect, if not your approval.

Like I said in the previous thread..... (just before it went bey bey)

No argument here... Not to mention the first 1000 to 2000 Pegasos buyers who bought it for MOS. It seems a bit unfair that they spent the money for something that seems to have lasted a few years while Genesi wouldn't exist today if it wasn't for them. That's a IMHO, take it as you want.

If MOS goes, it's allround bad news for the entire Amiga platform, whatever color you believe in.

[Argo]

 Yup, Cat is out of the bag. They've changed the page.

Though it sounds kind of similar to a post BBRV made on Morphzone about a week ago.

http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=3071&forum=2&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0
"... We just finished a good discussion with Stefan and we think we can clear this issue too so this will not be a problem for MorphOS and its future. Then we can worry about Ambient or other alternatives. If not (but I think we can), MorphOS will head to the embedded markets and we will continue to develop the platform with Linux."

I take it things didn't go well in their talks. Then again BB did say the Morphos wasn't their priority.

[Wilse]

@Wayne:

The team itself (the innocents in all of this) produced a tight little OS and for that they should at least have your respect, if not your approval.

And that they have.

As one of the few to use both 'red' and 'blue' systems, I appreciate the work of both teams. (I'm typing this on OS4 beta and browsing amigaworld.net on MOS1.4 at the same time - I can just see the cheer leaders on both sides having cardiac arrest at the thought. :lol: )

I hope the development of MOS is continued as it is an excellent OS.

[bloodline]

seer wrote:
And we're back..

The team itself (the innocents in all of this) produced a tight little OS and for that they should at least have your respect, if not your approval.

Like I said in the previous thread..... (just before it went bey bey)

No argument here... Not to mention the first 1000 to 2000 Pegasos buyers who bought it for MOS. It seems a bit unfair that they spent the money for something that seems to have lasted a few years while Genesi wouldn't exist today if it wasn't for them. That's a IMHO, take it as you want.

If MOS goes, it's allround bad news for the entire Amiga platform, whatever color you believe in.

All is not lost, should MOS be "dumped", then owners of the Pegasos boards are welcome to use AROS, and bring AROS up to spec on the PPC :-)

[Dan]

Interesting times indeed!
Time for MOS on Mac or MOL?
MOS on iBooks that would rock!

[seer]

@Bloodline

Hmm... MROS ? Morph Research OS ?  :-D

A (closer) joint effort might be interesting tho.. Giving both  OSes a boost in several areas..

[KennyR]

bloodline wrote:
All is not lost, should MOS be "dumped", then owners of the Pegasos boards are welcome to use AROS, and bring AROS up to spec on the PPC :-)

Not likely I'm afraid, bloodline: we MOS users wouldn't find AROS very useful without integrated legacy 68k emulation. We're already spoilt being able to run 68k, PUP, WOS, and even now simple OS4 apps, many can't see the point in downgrading functionality. If the worst happens, most likely they'll either sell their Pegasos or move to Linux. Not many will go the OS4 route, for sure.

[Argo]

There's a Pegasos port of AROS?

[KennyR]

Not yet. There hasn't been any good reason to spend time porting it, I suppose.

[dammy]

IIRC, it's stricktly limited to booting the aros kernel is as far as Michal has gotten with the AROS port.  He has since given up on the port and is offering the cpu/mobo to whomever wants to attempt a port.

Dammy
TeamAROS

[TheMagicM]

AROS is pretty cool btw.  I need to get another HD though that way I can install it..  My system is pretty much maxed out.. LOL

@Wilse,

Didn't mean to leave anyone out.  I agree that both teams have done a great job with their respective jobs.  It's just too bad they don't get along.

Wayne