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AuthorTopic: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!  (Read 3118 times)

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Offline jeffimix

Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2003, 04:58:10 AM »
Wait, woah, I thought Deep Blue was slower than that, being so old. But hey, my Palm Pilot can beat me at chess.
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Offline carls

Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2003, 06:01:28 AM »
@machinehead
Uhmm... Real-time video effects generation while playing UT2003? :-)
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Offline Quixote

Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2003, 06:30:04 AM »
machinehead mentioned:
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Tell me something, anything, you can't do with a 2 gig processor. Anything at all, feel free. Go ahead, correct me for being rong.
;-) Some applications will happily use all of the processing power that you can throw at it.  Ray tracing, for example.  But the point is taken: for MOST applications, such as e-mail and word processing, even the hardware found in the charity thrift stores really is good enough.  I've just today noticed PCs in my local Goodwill that are more powerful than the PC I'm using to post this message.  

:roll: This PC, by the way, was found in a dumpster.  No kidding.
 

  • Guest
Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2003, 10:12:42 AM »
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think it's great for Motorola to keep improving the G4 even further in order to keep up the competition  


right now  

G4 dosent compete with anything... it's pathetic(for serious work)... PPC970 from IBM is PPC's future on the desktop/workstation or low-end server machines.


The major problem is that G4's have a very slow obselete SDR bus that thto 167mhz... the chip is starved... PPC 970 will apperantly have a 900mhz bus? that I wanna see!.

the current G3's/G4's are fine for AmigaOne/Pegasos but their not fine for doing some more intense work like playing games like UT2003/Doom3, useing apps like Lightwave,Maya,etc ...

PPC970 should bring them up to par... (I hope?) ...
 

Offline poweramiga2002

Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2003, 10:24:01 AM »
typical morph answer no thought no brains
 

  • Guest
Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2003, 10:34:14 AM »
why dont you prove what I say is wrong instead of blatently trolling me without backing up any of your comments?... otherwise if you cant... why make them?

 

Offline strobe

Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2003, 10:11:21 PM »
Motorola back on track? Don't make me laugh!

Mac users have been keeping track of the record for a lot longer, and the G5 has been nothing but smoke, mirrors, and hopeless optimism about a hopeless company. Motorola is one of those companies which inspires Dilbert comic strips (quite literally).

Survey forums.appleinsider.com for a record of the damage. Please, don't waste your time rooting for this loser company.
 

Offline Hammer

Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2003, 12:16:05 AM »
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The speed of processors has outstripped software.

Faster CPU would benefit software driven DVD content creation related applications....
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Offline poweramiga2002

Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2003, 12:18:36 AM »
STROBE
as your avtar keep the paper bag over your head as you seem to belong there i for one suport motorolla ang they have my money and when the g5 does come out youll eat your words :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)
better still go buy a pc then youll be a total looser
 

Offline Damion

Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2003, 12:35:39 AM »
Well 'poweramiga202" what mips_proc and
strobe are posting is fact...so far you haven't
proven anybody wrong...

The future is with IBM's '970...not motorola's
crappy G5...
 

Offline Waccoon

Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2003, 02:56:52 AM »
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The speed of processors has outstripped software. This is the bottleneck in the world of games and porn. To say the average user needs a 3 gig processor to do this mundane stuff is ludicrous! This is not the argument of days of old when 512k was "enough" memory. This is different. Gamers are driving the market for faster stuff. It's now the speed of the graphics board that makes the difference. Tell me something, anything, you can't do with a 2 gig processor. Anything at all, feel free. Go ahead, correct me for being wrong.

Who cares?

All I know is, to use any CPU, you have to design a chipset specificly for that CPU.  Specific chipsets mean specific motherboards.  Special motherboards mean limited production.  Limited production means high prices and low quality.

I don't care if 2Ghz is "enough" to do anything.  All I care about is that a comparable chip from a market-leading manufacturer is going to do the same, or better, for less money.  When Motorolla (or whatever), makes a new chip that can justify the price, then I'll buy it.

I'm not paying $1000 freakin' dollars for a PPC machine that offers "enough", when I can get "enough" from a PC costing $300.

It's not about speed.  It's about value.  Motorolla lost the war on CPUs a long time ago, and now all they do well is embedded computers.  Embedded computers are not "enough" for desktop computers, and if you try to do that, they cost a freakin' fortune.
 

Offline teo

Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2003, 03:27:51 AM »
of interest to some, this was posted on our local ug list this morning, from www.macosrumors.com

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Much speculation has emerged about the IBM PowerPC 9800 processor, a high-end design that the company is developing from the POWER5 family (the PPC 970 "G5" is a POWER4 derivative) which will include four processor cores, Altivec, and many other dramatic improvements. Although it is closer to the high-end server/workstation space than the 970, it too already appears to be targeted in such a way that it could become the high-end G6 Mac processor at a time (late 2004/early 2005) when the G5 will be becoming mainstream and the G4 will be relegated only to portable products.


@poweramiga2002, were you refering to mips_proc's comment? just because his logo is a blue butterfly doesnt mean his trolling, the same way just because mine is red checkered balls doesnt mean im trolling... I havent read thru his past comments, but i dont see any blue flames in his post here?

That reminds me, dont forget to check out the amiga.org images section for the logo wars, coming soon to a screen near you...

The pro aos supporters (eg me) and pro mos supporters (eg mips_proc) that are dedicated and focused but still objective and realistic should be applauded, not abused?

@Waccoon, just for my interest, would you be happy moving to x86, as i would?
 

Offline strobe

Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2003, 03:53:32 AM »
macosrumors.com is the retarded drool-cup boy of the mac rumor sites. For several YEARS now they haven't had a SINGLE scoop that panned out. In other words they have been making crap up for YEARS. The only information they didn't make up was stolen from other sites, INCLUDING THIS ONE!

forums.appleinsider.com for crissakes. We've been monitoring these rumor mills for a long time now. Don't be fooled by click-whores.
 

Offline Damion

Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2003, 05:32:12 AM »
Hmmm...I thought that Motorola's mythical "G5"
was quite a bit different than the '970...
is it even correct to refer to the '970 as
a "G5"? I didn't think it was.


 

Offline strobe

Re: Great to see Motorola's back on track again!!!
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2003, 06:20:47 AM »
The whole 'G' business isn't Motorola's or IBM's idea anyway. The G4 is really a G3. The core didn't change like it did from G1 to G2 to G3.

The fabled G5 is even more vaporous than AOS4 (if that's possible). Supposedly Apple was depending on Motorola to not drop the ball again, but really they haven't even picked up the last ball they dropped. I don't believe the G5 ever existed beyond the dry marker phase, if that. You can mark it at AOS5 level on the vapor scale.

See forums.appleinsider.com to cut through the crap.