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Offline KennyR

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2003, 10:45:25 AM »
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One thing you and others here might not know is that latest MOS version is from sunday (9th Feb 2003)


I did know. I have spies everywhere. I even know about non-official releases. :-D

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Otoh, Q2 works faster on Pegasos using software render than on old wos-PPC Amigas with HW support.


Yes, I know that too. I played a friend on Q2 with me on an Amiga and me on a Pegasos. He kicked my ass even when I was the server - my 18 FPS just made me fragbait. ;-) Not only that, but each level on Q2 took him mere moments to load from the pak, and me up to 40 seconds from unpacked files.

There's no doubting the Pegasos's power, that's for sure. But I'm sure everyone's dying to see what Q2 and H2 look like on a Radeon. :-)

Ambient...yes, reinventing the wheel. If Genesi have all the money to spend they say they have, why not cut a deal with GPSoft for the Dopus5.8 source? Its WB-emulation mode would cut years off of Ambient's development.
 

  • Guest
Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2003, 11:02:01 AM »
>Ambient...yes, reinventing the wheel. If Genesi have all the money to spend they say they have, why not cut a deal with GPSoft for the Dopus5.8 source? Its WB-emulation mode would cut years off of Ambient's development.

I always wondered why there is no Cooperation with the Scalos Team.
I like Dopus but others dont. Scalos is a lot closer to Workbench
 

  • Guest
Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2003, 11:02:50 AM »
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Otoh, Q2 works faster on Pegasos using software render than on old wos-PPC Amigas with HW support.


It might be faster, but I looks VERY bad in software mode.


Vidar
 

Offline Bodie

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2003, 11:05:24 AM »
EEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW

Software mode is a horror...

The horror

The horror.... :shocked:
 

Offline Coder

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2003, 11:06:41 AM »
Hi,

Looks your really happy with it. :-)

If the resources are there we will have a Pegasos too so that we can develop some software for it. Personally I am interested in a handheld device that will run MOS. :-)

Coder
Check it out - I found the ass-end!
 

Offline KennyR

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2003, 11:12:33 AM »
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I always wondered why there is no Cooperation with the Scalos Team.
I like Dopus but others dont. Scalos is a lot closer to Workbench


Good point. Scalos uses MUI so it would be more suitable for MOS than DOpus, which would have to be rewritten not to use its custom BOOPSI stuff. It would also be a hell of a lot cheaper. :-)
 

Offline JoannaK

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2003, 11:29:32 AM »
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KennyR wrote:
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One thing you and others here might not know is that latest MOS version is from sunday (9th Feb 2003)


I did know. I have spies everywhere. I even know about non-official releases. :-D


Ah.. Well, I'm quite sure many here did not know.

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There's no doubting the Pegasos's power, that's for sure. But I'm sure everyone's dying to see what Q2 and H2 look like on a Radeon. :-)


Agree.. would be really nice to see those brand new gfx hardwares in real action.  Ambient is looking good and feels snappy, but real power of these graphics cards is on 3D side.

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Ambient...yes, reinventing the wheel. If Genesi have all the money to spend they say they have, why not cut a deal with GPSoft for the Dopus5.8 source? Its WB-emulation mode would cut years off of Ambient's development.


Well..  What I seem to remember that Dopus was supposed to be part of OS4 system. Dunno what finally happened to that deal. But, not my headache, I don't work there  :-P
 

Offline Spidey

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2003, 12:03:04 PM »
Hoi Coder,

Yes, I'm happy to have at last something new as replacement for my dear A1200. I bought this in 1993 (the birth of my son bytheway :-)) and over the years I only bought a Blizzard40/40 with SCSI2 for speed and ofcourse a fix for connecting pc-monitors.
(and no, I still don't have any pc's at home)

And now I have something with great graphical possibilities, and most important, speed!
(oh, sound's nice too)

I just heard that MiamiDX works fine, so I'll try that later when I'm at home :-)

Spidey
 

Offline zacman

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2003, 12:27:35 PM »
>For balance, let me mention some negative points
>of MOS at its current (unfinished) phase

Funny, now even people that don't have Pegasos nor
the current MorphOS version write reviews...
 

  • Guest
Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2003, 12:27:38 PM »
Hey, you don`t have a Voodoo3 to test the 3D stuff ? i guess this will work fine.

I mean this is wath i will use with my Pegasos until the 3D for new cards is ready.

BTW how much time you wait for you Pegasos :), and where you buy your board ?

thanks for your informations.
 

Offline zacman

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2003, 12:30:38 PM »
>If Genesi have all the money to spend they say they
>have, why not cut a deal with GPSoft for the
>Dopus5.8 source?

Wouldn't help because DOpus has some major
restrictions such as no fully multithreading through the desktop (example within listers). Ambient has.
 

Offline mahen

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2003, 12:56:30 PM »
Here, MorphOS itself just takes 5 seconds. It includes also the launch of miamiDX, Toolmanager, audio mixer, mynotes. + a big user startup, backdrop.

However, before MOS begins to load it takes some time, but I guess it's due to some debug output. (and depends on your memory)
 

Offline mahen

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2003, 12:59:10 PM »
Yep, I think 3D drivers are ready for voodoo, sis... But not for radeon yet.

The TCP IP stack and the other contributions will all be given as soon as they're ready (doesn't depend on the mos team but on the contributors)

BTW, there was an update a few days ago, make sure you use this one !

Here not a single crash since the update :)
 

Offline Spidey

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2003, 01:22:09 PM »
Hello DDJPPC ,

I've got a ATI Radeaon 9000 64 MB and to be honest, I don't know how to check 3D stuff with and without 3D acceleration.
I just clicked QuakeII, played it a bit and stopped.
Oh, I played it on a 1024x768 screen and it looked nice.

The time I waited for my board?
Hard question, until beginning of this year I was going for AmigaOne G4 800 MHz, but after hearing of again a delay, I ordered a Pegasos. So I guess I waited a month for it.

I bought it in the Netherlands :-)

Spidey
 

Offline Spidey

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2003, 01:27:20 PM »
Hello mahen,

In the list of drivers updated was also ATI Radeon (till the 9000). ;-)

I installed the update but now saving the preferences crashes randomly!
I mentioned this in the mailinglist.

Spidey