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Offline itix

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2003, 02:30:40 PM »
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My general feeling is that MUI-oriented applications work "better" than other kind of applications.


No wonder. MUI package itself offers better future compatibility than GadTools and MUI applications tend to behave better than non-MUI apps...
My Amigas: A500, Mac Mini and PowerBook
 

Offline itix

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2003, 02:43:09 PM »
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- No TCP/IP stack included. Getting software onto your Pegasos is a nightmare, unless you have an Amiga with a CD burner available. Also, using MiamiDX is problematic.


Well, MiamiDX works. I have tried it on my A1200 and on Pegasos and no problems so far. Miami 3.x is very problematic if you are using GadTools interface... It makes GUI extremely unstable.

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- Theres no support for the floppy drive at all.


It can't read Amiga floppies anyway... But could be useful sometimes, true.

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- No 3D drivers yet. You can play those 3D games - but only in software mode.


Yup.

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- Ambient (WB replacement) is "years behind workbench".


I don't agree... WB itself is years behind everything. At least Ambient implements "sort by name" AFAIR.

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- MOS is still not 100% stable. Stable enough for limited use (IRC, etc), but not nearly as stable as 68k AmigaOS.


It depends. On BPPC/CSPPC you get far less problems than on Pegasos because you have all that old HW there. Many programs are triggering non-existant hardware registers causing troubles and slowdowns. Illegal tricks wont work any longer! It could be good judge compare OS4 vs. MOS rather than MOS vs. OS3 (or OS4 vs. OS3).

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If you think this is FUD, it's not. Consider it a little pressure on the MOS coders to get things right, for some friends. I'm sure they'll get it right soon, but they haven't yet.


:)
My Amigas: A500, Mac Mini and PowerBook
 

Offline kolla

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2003, 03:19:02 PM »
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I don't agree... WB itself is years behind everything. At least Ambient implements "sort by name" AFAIR.


Are you suggesting that WB doesnt?

If so.. that is not true, WB (OS3.9) has sort by name, size, date and type.
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A3000/060CSPPC+CVPPC/128MB + 256MB BigRAM/Deneb USB
A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM460 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline kolla

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2003, 03:24:02 PM »
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Wouldn't help because DOpus has some major
restrictions such as no multithreading through the
full desktop. Ambient has.


Nonsense.
B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC
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A3000/060CSPPC+CVPPC/128MB + 256MB BigRAM/Deneb USB
A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM460 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline Senex

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2003, 04:22:48 PM »
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Like I can't backdrop (Amiga) icons.


Although of course at least you can create a .backdrop-file with a text-editor yourself for that purpose.
 

Offline KennyR

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2003, 06:02:53 PM »
Stop smiling at me and buy a damn pegasos so you can come back to #AmigaZeux, iti! ;-)
 

Offline SlimJim

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2003, 07:08:16 PM »
Nice to see some user's reviews of this thing. Good to see
people like the Pegasos and that MOS is in a reasonably
usable shape.
 
And above all,
This began as a pure MOS/Pegasos thread and was allowed
to stay that way
. An unusually mature touch (as opposed
to almost every AOS4/AOne thread I've seen lately).
.
SlimJim
 

Offline Spidey

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2003, 07:37:30 PM »
Hello Senex,

Unfortunately the system of backdrops on Ambient is a bit different than on workbench.

You're absolutely right that on workbench you can edit a file in which you note the path of the file.

I saw on Ambient a directory as ".backdrop" and in it you see all these PNG images! This is totally different than workbench.

Spidey
 

Offline Senex

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2003, 07:59:02 PM »
Hello Spidey!

Hm, then this has to be a new feature of the very latest BT2-release
(haven't integrated its newer parts in my BT1-setup yet). At least
here creating such a directory and adding something to it doesn't have
any effect - while of course the traditional way using a .backdrop
file still works and is used by me for a long time already.
 

Offline Jupp3

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2003, 09:31:47 PM »
Well, thought, I could share some of my MorphOS experiences here aswell :-)

Note - I don't have newest version, in fact, my version isn't much newer than that public ancient 0.4...

And of course, I'm running that on my A1200 (for now)

But for hardware, as I was expecting, most "standard" hardware seems to work okay, like X-Surf Ethernet card, CD-drive etc. but bit of surprise, my Squirrel seems to work great aswell (I considered it always a bit "hacky" but don't need better one for just scanner...)
A2232 didn't work, but I don't use it that much anyway...
Oh, Midi playback thru Midi interface plugged into serial port works aswell...

And for software...
If it's "system friendly" it should work, so most likely any WHDload installed ECS game will refuse to work.
And about my own tests, some Amos programs of mine didn't work, some worked perfectly.
And those, that did, ran about as fast than on 060 (emulated on 175MHz PPC without JIT, yes, I was surprised too)

I guess, that "notworking" was coused by the way I was drawing gfx (using standard Amos commands, like Screen Open etc.), in short, using Amiga GFX chips directly.
(Hey - I'm not saying, that they should work - those commands shouldn't be used any way, just tried)

But using intuition screens seems to work well enough (with Amos)

Yep, I've done (lately) stuff with C aswell, progressing rather nicely with my newest project...

But trying Amos code seemed more like "test" as many consider that "really hacky" :-)
 

Offline sexton

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2003, 09:40:18 PM »
Post screenshots of your systems please!  :-o
Amiga 500. KS 2.04 1+4MB FAST, 40GB SCSI HD
Commodore 64 Breadbox + 1541
Duron 600Mhz 512MB Radeon 9000 Pro
HardSID + EVENT PS8s + Mackie VLZ 1402
Pegasos OR AmigaONE *possibly* on the way
http://www.garba.org
 

Offline Frodon

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2003, 09:52:53 PM »
Hello,

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Spidey wrote:
Hello Senex,

Unfortunately the system of backdrops on Ambient is a bit different than on workbench.

You're absolutely right that on workbench you can edit a file in which you note the path of the file.

I saw on Ambient a directory as ".backdrop" and in it you see all these PNG images! This is totally different than workbench.

Spidey


I use the latest update. And I can tell you that if you create a FILE .backdrop in the root of the partition(s) you want to have some of their apps on the desktop, it works.

Example of some entries of my DH2:.backdrop  file:

:Utilitaires/Internet/IBrowse/IBrowse
:Utilitaires/Internet/MiamiDX/MiamiDX

First line allow me to have IBrowse located in DH2:Utilitaires/Internet/IBrowse/ on my desktop.
Second line is he same but for MiamiDX.

Regards
Frodo Baggins

Fleecy Moss, Aug 1999: \\"You may have bought the name Amiga, but the community is something you have to earn. AInc have never understood that, and now there is another company\\"
 

Offline Spidey

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2003, 10:13:31 PM »
Hello Frodon,

Thanks for this info.

I only saw this dir (.backdrop) when backdropping my DirOpus didn't work on Ambient.
I didn't had the time to dig deeper and today, unfortunately, I only have time to reply :-)

I'll get into it tomorrow!



@Senex:

Sorry for the misinformation :-(
I only saw that and assumed this was the only way to backdrop in Ambient.


@Sexton:

As mentioned before you can see pictures on www.morphos.de :-)



@Everyone:

Thanks for all replies friends!
Tomorrow I'll try more programs to run, but for now I'm off to bed :-D

Spidey

 

Offline uncharted

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2003, 10:58:45 PM »
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Spidey wrote:

@Sexton:

As mentioned before you can see pictures on www.morphos.de :-)


Just out of interest have any MOS users got ambient set up with a more amiga-like look (xen or something) and glowicons (I heard the icon sets are exchangeable)
 

Offline Spidey

Re: My review of Pegasos+MorphOS
« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2003, 12:32:10 PM »
Hello uncharted,

I'll try to do that this evening :-D

I showed the computer to a friend of mine, who knows only about pc's and Windows.
He was impressed by the startup of the system.
I clocked it again, but it takes 25 seconds in total.
Resetting the computer takes the same amount of time. I forgot to clock only the loading of the software.
I'll do that this evening.
Further on I showed him the games and just simple clicking on the desktop was impressing enough for him to think about buying such a system! :-D

To be honest I told him to other wait until this platform has a real future in software (both OS4 and MorphOS) or to buy a pc now.
It is true you get a whole lot of programs already installed with Windows and for now it's more "user-friendly" for beginners.

I managed to find and download MiamiDX. So this evening I'll try that too.
It will a busy evening for me :-D :-D

Spidey