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Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« on: January 31, 2003, 10:17:39 AM »
Hi,

I'm about to buy an used Amiga 1200 but it seems that doesn't come with 3.1 ROMs. What will I miss without the newest ROM? I'm not interested in 3.9 as I won't have CD-ROM. If I had to pay for the ROMs, it will probably be a better deal to get a brand new Amiga 1200 from vesalia.de
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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2003, 10:53:35 AM »
I think running 3.5 or 3.9 is not possible on a 3.0 ROM.
There's probably more  :-D
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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2003, 11:07:16 AM »
Basically thats it...
there is cd support and a few revisions of commands...
You can always upgrade later..
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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2003, 12:11:59 PM »

On a plain A1200 you will not see any differences between 3.0 and 3.1. BTW you can run WB 3.1 on Kick 3.0.

But when it comes to expansion, there will be some restrictions:

- most 68060 boards don't run with Kick 3.0
- PPC boards either
- most graphics cards drivers don't run.
- OS3.5/3.9 won't run.

Also there are some bug fixes and optimizations on Kick 3.1. AFAIK it uses less chip ram and AGA display is slightly faster.

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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2003, 12:14:25 PM »
I have a feeling you can't use zorro busboards without 3.1 roms aswell. Of course, I'd be happy to hear if that isn't the case (esp. with a Micronik board).

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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2003, 01:11:23 PM »
I've been using a Blizzard1260/50MHz on a 3.0 A1200 without any problems.

CyberGraphX have workarounds for running on 3.0 (IIRC, 3.1 has WriteChuckyPixels() whereas 3.0 does not), a friend of mine was running a CV64 with CyberGraphX 3 (I think) on his v39 A4000 without any problems.

If you're just going to play around with it a little, run the odd game, watch demos and maybe use some classic AGA software (PPaint etc.) then I see no reason why 3.0 should be insufficient.
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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2003, 02:22:43 PM »
"Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?"

Well, you can't eat them, or use them as a suppositry. I don't think they'd make a very nice hat, either.
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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2003, 02:39:06 PM »
@ thomas:
 
> - most 68060 boards don't run with Kick 3.0
 
Which ones excatly? I've never heard of such requirement.
 
> - PPC boards either
 
PPC boards work fine with 3.0.
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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2003, 03:24:35 PM »
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Tickly wrote:
"Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?"

Well, you can't eat them, or use them as a suppositry.


you could, but only if you were a bit odd.

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I don't think they'd make a very nice hat, either.


You could make a very tiny wall, or a very fetching pair of earrings.
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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2003, 04:24:39 PM »
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You could make a very tiny wall, or a very fetching pair of earrings.


If you had enough of them, you could glue them to your wall for an unusual wallpaper effect.
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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2003, 05:00:44 PM »
Tickly,

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Well, you can't eat them


Damn, and here I was contemplating switching from Barbecue Chips  to Sillicon Chips. :-P

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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2003, 05:57:57 PM »
You could use them as tiny bricks and build doll houses, like DJ Shadow. :-o  Yeah, he does that. 8-)
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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2003, 06:20:55 PM »
@sexton
there is plenty of info on the differences, aimed at developers!
on the Amiga Developer CD!
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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2003, 08:37:29 PM »
Yes you can! but you need to add flashrom to your starupsequens (in the first line) but it onley works whit Blizzard cards
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Re: Do you know what you CAN'T DO with 3.0 ROMs?
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2003, 09:53:43 AM »
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Well, you can't eat them, or use them as a suppositry.


It's possible. All it takes is a little determination. And preferably some Preparation H.
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