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Offline NovaCoder

Re: AVI question
« Reply #44 from previous page: October 28, 2013, 10:51:05 PM »
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I thought I'd give Virtualdub another try with CinePak and got a reasonable result, I'll have to see if I can tweak it further.   The audio is very low, not sure why.

im assuming  u got a 060  playing that avi  ..i dont get nearly as good results  
smooth enuff  but looks more like 16 colours  on my  030 machine half screen  mov files  look better using action  i use cyberavi to play avis ..mpegs dont seem to like me  so far not many play for me or are way jerky.. ..lets say  i have a mpeg  or a vcd  of a movie  an want to play it as a avi on my a1200 ..how  do i do it  ..never used virtual dub etc..

Yep 060, same speed as Paul's :)

MooVid is the best thing for playing AVI's on AGA, you can use the HAM8 mode called 'Storm Dither' for the best looking results (16bit on AGA!).   The AVI player bundled with 3.9 called Action is actually MooVid in disguise.

Virtualdub seems to be the best tool to use for creating the AVI's (use CinePak codec), I've still got to fine tune it a bit to improve the playback.....watch this space.

Saying all that though, you're not going to get very good results with an 030, it's just not powerful enough I'm afraid.
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Re: AVI question
« Reply #45 on: October 31, 2013, 05:11:59 AM »
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Yes, 80MHz. Thanks for your nice comment.
The 040@40MHz is a nice CPU, but it's slow next to an 060.
Everything I post here is fake though; pictures, words... I'm just a wreckless fool! :laugh1:

yes u fake too,you 060 fanatic fool
post a sysinfo screenshot instead syspeed screenshot which runs in dual core mode
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Re: AVI question
« Reply #46 on: October 31, 2013, 05:35:20 AM »
To LaserBack:

Instead of calling people fakes, and saying dual core all the time, you could read up on the 60 specs: http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MC68060

And here's a 60 diagram where you can see the two integer units pOEP and sOEP:



You keep going on about Sysinfo. That bench mark isn't accurate. Get over it, and accept the facts. And no, 60s aren't dual core, they have two integer units, NOT TWO CORES. Is that so hard to understand? No one ever said anything about 60s having two cores except YOU.

You deny plain facts that have been know by skilled 60 assembler coders for over ten years now. Stop being so stubborn, and throw that damned Sysinfo in the trash. It's NOT a good bench mark for 60s, period.

Anyway, believe what you want, it doesn't matter, because your beliefs don't change the facts.
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Re: AVI question
« Reply #47 on: October 31, 2013, 11:38:49 PM »
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You keep going on about Sysinfo. That bench mark isn't accurate


sysinfo is 100% accurate
 is not accurate only for all the blue pill 060 fools

and of course the 060 is not a dual core cpu ,I was joking you can't detect sarcasm
 2 integer units ? wtf ?: they are in your imagination lol
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #48 on: November 01, 2013, 01:26:41 AM »
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sysinfo is 100% accurate

No, it's not. No benchmark is 100% accurate, and if you knew what you were talking about, you would know this.

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2 integer units ? wtf ?: they are in your imagination lol

No, they're not. They're a well documented part of Motorola's 68060 design and implementation. Didn't you look at the diagram I posted? Why don't you download Motorola's official 68060 documentation and see for yourself.

Really, you either have no clue whatsoever about what you're saying, or you're just trolling.

Anyway, I'm completely done with this crap. If you can't be bothered to learn anything, then that's fine with me. However, I do have a problem with you calling people liars and fakes, while YOU are the one who's completely and utterly clueless. And if you're just trolling, then grow the hell up.
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #49 on: November 02, 2013, 10:46:39 AM »
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Yep a good starting point.

I've noticed that those videos are very low quality, even if you watch them in a Window on Windows (confused?)

One strange thing that I noticed with video playback on Classics, if I play the same OS 3.9 video with an 030 and then an 060 the playback speed is not much better.   Considering the increase in MIPS (from 10 to 110), you'd expect a bigger improvement?

I've also played around and converted a few of my own clips to AVI but haven't got it working very well yet.
could you please do a quick how to  with virtual dub  to making avis  capable of being played on amiga  ..ive downloaded  the program  ..how do i add the codecs(cinepak)  i need  an how do i set it  up to copy an convert a movie  to a avi..had a quick look a bit lost ..i downloaded the latest version ..
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2013, 02:32:42 PM »
Its actually pretty simple.
No need to install cinepak codec, virtualdub can deal with it by default.
Just open the file you want to convert (this is the part you may need to install a windows codec or two for), then select the video compression, select cinepak, then adjust your audio to suit (eight bit mobo is probably a good idea for a slower cpu). Adjust your color depth to sixteen bit, then save as legacy avi.

That's all there is to it.
Im not infront of my windows machine at the moment, so I couldn't remember menu names, etc., but with the above description and even a little bit of computer literary you'll be good to go :)
To be honest, having to have a look around the software a little will better help a person to learn than having their hand held all the way through anyway. Besides that, it really is very simple once you have the basics.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2013, 01:30:21 PM »
ok  following  your instrutions  ..couldnt find 8 bit  audio  ..an no sign of legacy avi ..just saved as old type avi ..see how it goes  ..i did find a 10 min  avi from my collection on a cd from 1996  ..it played ok  ..was full screen  even  ..bit jerky an colours were not quite  right ..but who knows  ..im persistant..
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #52 on: November 04, 2013, 02:14:41 PM »
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could you please do a quick how to  with virtual dub  to making avis  capable of being played on amiga  ..ive downloaded  the program  ..how do i add the codecs(cinepak)  i need  an how do i set it  up to copy an convert a movie  to a avi..had a quick look a bit lost ..i downloaded the latest version ..


Ok, grab a small AVI 320x240 for example (or choose the resize filter) within virtualdub under the (video menu).   Under the Audio menu, select 'conversion' and set that sucker at something like 11025Hz in 8bits.   Set both Video and Audio to 'full processing mode' and that's about it I think.   That's all I did to produce this movie anyway.

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I'm going to see if I can improve this ouput tomorrow if I get the time...
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Re: AVI question
« Reply #53 on: November 06, 2013, 01:46:04 PM »
thanks  i did get a full episode of startrek  converted to avi  ..an it played from my usb  on my 1200 ..a bit  slow  ..but  didnt wanna burn a cd till i thought id get a working copy ..no sound  yet ..so ill try your  suggestions on how  you did it ..c how it goes  ..only  program i used before was freemakevideo converter  ..brilliant program ..can turn a mp4  into anything  almost ..or easy vcd  ..they basically do everything for you ..
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

Offline NovaCoder

Re: AVI question
« Reply #54 on: November 06, 2013, 01:58:09 PM »
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thanks  i did get a full episode of startrek  converted to avi  ..an it played from my usb  on my 1200 ..a bit  slow  .


Cool, I just (finally) got the intro to ALIENS running well on my A1200.

I'll try and upload a video tomorrow :)
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Offline NovaCoder

Re: AVI question
« Reply #55 on: November 08, 2013, 01:28:39 AM »
I had another go, this is as good as I can get it I think.

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #56 on: November 08, 2013, 02:20:55 PM »
thats outstanding  ..afraid best i could  get is 160 x 240  ..with sound  it gets a bit lost but plays ok ..afraid  the colours  get lost  ..good effect  for my 1200/030 ..i used  action player  ..cyberavi users lots  chip memory so large  avis it just wont play ..i got over 90 meg fast ram free  but stuck with 2 meg chip limits ..
how do u get it to play in ham mode ?
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

Offline NovaCoder

Re: AVI question
« Reply #57 on: November 09, 2013, 05:40:37 AM »
You just need to find the last version of MooVid and then read the guide that comes with it, basically you change a couple of ToolTypes and set it up for HAM8.


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