Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!

[AmigaClassicRule]

As this news item tells, there is a bounty open to release the MorphOS web browser Odyssey as open source so that it can be ported to AROS and OS4, including key functionality such as the capability to play HTML5 video.:cool:

This is a great opportunity for OS4 and AROS to get the same great, truly Amiga native web browsing experience as MorphOS has had since several years, and to support one of the community's best remaining developers in the process!

Some highlighted features:

• Based on r155188 WebKit (October 2013) or newer
• Javascript, CSS, DOM, SVG, Unicode, SSL, ...
• HTML5 Video / Audio support (Ogg / Theora, WEBM, MPEG4 / H264, MP3, AAC, WAV and other formats / codecs)
• Antialiased fonts and kerning, font families and support for international charsets
• MUI Interface
• Multiple tabs and windows
• Download manager with resume and history support
• Password manager
• Cookie manager
• Messages console
• Network connections manager
• Session support
• Form filling completion
• Bookmarks
• Fastlinks
• History
• Content blocking (AdBlock-like)
• URL Completion
• Configurable MIME types
• Favicon support
• Private Browsing
• Per URL settings
• Configurable contextual menus
• Configurable search engines
• Contextual cursors
• Drag and Drop support
• Clipboard support
• Spell checking support (through spellchecker.library)
• Fullscreen support
• OpenURL/Rexx support
• PDF export
• Printing support
• Plugin support
• WebInspector (FireBug-like)
• User scripting (GreaseMonkey-like)

In less than 24h after this news was posted, 42 people has already contributed $1,328 towards the bounty goal, meaning that ~18% of the bounty is already complete! :cool: So if you are a true fan of OS4 and/or AROS, make sure to put your name on the Wall of Fame at that bounty page, telling everyone that you helped making it real! :)

Go to http://www.power2people.org/projects/odyssey/ and make your donation Now!

:knuddel:

I want to donate now...but I want Amigaclassicrule as my name is this something I can do...or I am forced to have my real name in there? Because what stopped me now from clicking pay is this factor....clarify it for me so I can donate immediately!

[AmigaClassicRule]

~20% :cool:

Now I'd like to see Acube and Aeon making a Big, Fat contribution each, like a digit with three trailing zeroes! That would be nice!

After all, Odyssey will finally make "their" OS4 become really usable for web browsing, which can only mean good things for their HW sales...

Finally.....it will become a little easier to do transition from PC to Amiga platform. Does the browser support all ASPX pages and pages that use telerik controllers, HTML 5 and so on? What is left from moving 100% completely from PC to Amiga platform forever is game making programs like Unity, RPG Maker, Engine001, Game Maker, etc and programming language such as .NET for Amiga.

[AmigaClassicRule]

When you are logged in at Paypal, you should see an extra input field for your "public name". Optionally, you can always send an email listing your donation and the desired alias too.

Thanks. Donated!

[AmigaClassicRule]

A quarter already, and now quickly moving up towards one third!

Wow, it looks like this will really happen!

:drink:

Yes, but it is not going fast enough! It should increase 20% a day!!

[AmigaClassicRule]

:bump:

A little update!

Current status is:    113 donors(!)
contributing with $3073(!)
meaning 41%(!) of the $7500 goal!

:pint:
So in very short time the bounty has come very far, which makes me think this bounty can easily be fulfilled!

This time of the month, most of us has got another paycheck and probably already paid the monthly bills as well. So if you have some money to spare, please consider kicking in some fresh dollars to the bounty stash!

Every little contribution counts!

Bigger contributions counts even more! :p

A browser of Odyssey's caliber will mean *a lot* to the OS4, AROS and ARIX platforms, so if you have any feelings for these and want to strengthen their position by making it possible to port this great web browser to them, then show it to the community (and have your name put on the growing list of contributors!)

Let's at least push it past the 2/3 milestone this time!

As soon as I get more money in my hand I promise I will donate more than what I donated before. Last time, I donated so little because that is all I got with me :$

[AmigaClassicRule]

As this news item tells, there is a bounty open to release the MorphOS web browser Odyssey as open source so that it can be ported to AROS and OS4, including key functionality such as the capability to play HTML5 video.:cool:

This is a great opportunity for OS4 and AROS to get the same great, truly Amiga native web browsing experience as MorphOS has had since several years, and to support one of the community's best remaining developers in the process!

Some highlighted features:

• Based on r155188 WebKit (October 2013) or newer
• Javascript, CSS, DOM, SVG, Unicode, SSL, ...
• HTML5 Video / Audio support (Ogg / Theora, WEBM, MPEG4 / H264, MP3, AAC, WAV and other formats / codecs)
• Antialiased fonts and kerning, font families and support for international charsets
• MUI Interface
• Multiple tabs and windows
• Download manager with resume and history support
• Password manager
• Cookie manager
• Messages console
• Network connections manager
• Session support
• Form filling completion
• Bookmarks
• Fastlinks
• History
• Content blocking (AdBlock-like)
• URL Completion
• Configurable MIME types
• Favicon support
• Private Browsing
• Per URL settings
• Configurable contextual menus
• Configurable search engines
• Contextual cursors
• Drag and Drop support
• Clipboard support
• Spell checking support (through spellchecker.library)
• Fullscreen support
• OpenURL/Rexx support
• PDF export
• Printing support
• Plugin support
• WebInspector (FireBug-like)
• User scripting (GreaseMonkey-like)

In less than 24h after this news was posted, 42 people has already contributed $1,328 towards the bounty goal, meaning that ~18% of the bounty is already complete! :cool: So if you are a true fan of OS4 and/or AROS, make sure to put your name on the Wall of Fame at that bounty page, telling everyone that you helped making it real! :)

Go to http://www.power2people.org/projects/odyssey/ and make your donation Now!

:knuddel:

Isn't the lack of interest of donation and interest by community and desire to see this happen...is a great indication that the community itself does not care to see a good browser ported to the Amiga community? That they would rather use an ancient Ibrowser or AWeb from classical times and that they do not support AmigaOS 4.1 at all?

I mean...even if it is not true the lack of enthusiasm and the lack of donation from the Amiga community part itself...indicate so?

I am thinking here....the jack pot for success here is 7,500 dollars...that is the main goal, right? Well...assume there are very few people left in the Amiga community and majority have either died or moved on. Assume in the entire Amiga community in general there are just 1000 left...that is it...1000 left which combines the interest of the Amiga classic and new modern hardware in total..both for Amigaworld.net and Amiga.org combined there are 1000 people left in the community. If every single person donate 10 dollars you will get 10,000 donation that is more than the 7,500 and the goal would be met and the port will happen. But in total there are 120 people who donated...just 120...that shows very lack interest in this entire project.

Even if all the 1000 people who are left in this community donate 5 dollars you would still meet the goal requirement and the project will happen.

Am I missing something here? And by the way...I did donate myself so do not come at me in this angel. Maybe people do not believe AmigaOS 4.1 is a real AmigaOS and the hardware a real Amiga hardware and maybe people do not believe AmigaOS 4.1 is worthy of their time and money and would rather see this project in AmigaOS 3.9 and perhaps would rather see AmigaOS 4.1 be destroyed and die out with it's modern hardware and be still stuck in ancient old hardware that is over expense with lack of ability to do things in modern time...maybe. I am not so sure the reason  behind it.

[AmigaClassicRule]

First of all... if you include the 68k community you have a lot more than 1000 people, I think there are a lot more than all "NG" supporters combined, of course many using emulation instead of hardware. And there are certainly people that do not like AmigaOS or Hyperion. But the majority is simply not interested in AmigaOS running on PPC.

So simple summarize... OWB is not running on 68k and will propably not run in future. We tried to motivate the AROS devs to port OWB (the version of Fab) to port it to AROS 68k and Jason tried but did not succeed. Most of the AROS NG devs are not interested in 68k. So at least for now not interesting for 68k fans. MorphOS user already have it. Some donate because they use both systems but that is certainly a minority. So it is realistic only interesting for AmigaOS and AROS user. And for that it is a huge bounty. Look at Magellan bounty. It was virtually interesting for all platforms and was a lot lower than this bounty and did not reach the amount after a long time (I think it was more than 6 months). And it makes no sense to moan that 68k fans do not donate to a AmigaOS bounty if you cannot offer them something for their money. The amount was too high in my view (regardless if you think it is worth the money or not). If Fab wants the money shortly he can decide it is enough donation (what happened with the Magellan bounty) or has to wait till the money is there (even if it needs for example one year). Or he does not care about money and if and when the bounty sum is collected. I cannot judge that.

I have one theory... people (devs) have learned that AmigaOS fans spend virtually every sum for their hobby so if AmigaOS is involved the sum is automatically going up. It is a kind of market (on a low level of course).

I am sure you are aware that even if the community is composed of 1000 people only and every single person just donated five dollars this bounty would have being closed already and the port would have taken effect. You understand my point then..is that due to the fact only 120 people donated show a huge lack of interest from the entire community. Five dollars is not too much from everyone even if it is Christmas time. Then the real question...why the lack of interest?

Is it that people complain they want this and that...but do not want to put any input on it? Or just like ordering free pizza to be delivered to your home without you paying for it..or contributing? Or the thought of donating makes the person shiver from the inside out...or everyone is hoping the other would donate and somehow it will be available for him without him putting any effort? Am I getting warm?

[AmigaClassicRule]

them reason I think are mostly WRONG, the main reason I only donated a small amount is because this is simply open source the code, there are no guarantees it will be easy to port specially if it uses closed sourced Morphos libs or what ever and we need to support the devs who are going to have to port it over and maintain it.

Plus another reason why many OS4 users dont post much any more is there sick of some of crap that goes on in the drama of amiga world web sites and plus maybe they are just simply enjoying there machine and not on web forums as much. I know I've spent a bit more time on my Amiga than on amiga forums. And big thanks to the QT youtube app I finds my self more and more on the Amiga!

No way....is that your reason? I tell you what..I take the reasons of takemehomegrandma more into grain salt than yours!!! The other reasons where you disapproved and spoke against on the behalf of the rest of the community to me sound more correct, valid, sane, logical, and maturer than your reason. If your reason simply put that the drama in this community is the big reason why community no longer support browser so as to not want to read the drama...simply put...is weak at best! The solution to that problem is DO NOT VISIT the site! Problem solved! Same if you listen to a radio show and you find the talk show be political incorrect, sexist, racist, fascist  you name it...the solution to that problem..the nob of that radio. Simply put...change the radio station or turn it off...your problem is solved! However, why stop a good browser that the Amiga needs so badly that could be used for youtube, flash site intensive, do your banking work, etc....just because of the drama that comes in amiga.org or amigaworld.net?

That to me is sooooo illogical that I will go with the previous reason why people do not donate better than your reason.

[AmigaClassicRule]

A modern realization of what?

Honestly, that is a very good question :crazy:

[AmigaClassicRule]

Yes, it is.
And I love it!
What pervert doesn't wholly embrace his perversion?

And most of my hardware is low cost (except for the over priced legacy stuff - yet another perversion, paying more for outdated hardware than new and more useful stuff).

I won't attempt to justify the pursuit of any particular form of 'recreational computing'.
If it itches, scratch it.

Jim

Depending on where you are scratching, right?

[AmigaClassicRule]

There's nothing quite like getting your freak on with Amigas.

Odyssey would run on an 060 with 256MB RAM, it would just be a tad slow. Disable JavaScript and use the WarpDT datatypes for image decoding and it could be usable.

Define tad slow. Knowing that we are supporting a browser for the Amiga that finally allows us to view all flash pages 100% like Windows 7 and Windows 8, we are supporting or donating to a browser that allows us to watch videos, such as youtube, etc on the browser itself like we do with Windows and Linux and so on.....we are supporting a browser that allows us to play flash/html5/and java script games and apps.

Having achieved all that...what are the chance rate that speed is a factor when it comes to legacy hardware? You know as well, when you say tad slow...that is very much deceiving...we can say that if we DID (which is insane) but import it to 68k...it is good enough to browse only HTML5/CSS page...but flash, javascript and watching videos on a classical Amiga is not feasible even if we manage to grind the 060 to run at 200 Mhz (which is impossible to do).

So...I believe...the best we can do..is run it on AmigaOS 4.1 on a powerful PPC...that is where the benefit of donation goes..not on a 060 hardware running at 50 Mhz or 100 mhz CPU....