Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!

[takemehomegrandma]

I like a challenge...

Allright!

And A-eon, you have been beaten by a dollar, how do you respond to that?

[haywirepc]

Still no Hyperion or acube donation. :p

Gee I guess they just don't see the good in a modern browser for their platform
they can't rob people for.


I will donate soon myself.

[nicholas]

Still no Hyperion or acube donation. :p

Gee I guess they just don't see the good in a modern browser for their platform
they can't rob people for.


I will donate soon myself.

Have Hyperion ever donated money to any of these bounties? Opensource or otherwise.

It seems to me they (and certain contractors of theirs) only take from the community.

[haywirepc]

Exactly the point. Would be nice to see them donate instead of just for a change... This will obviously benefit OS4 tremendously.

Its either this or os4 users have to pay for the firefox port. (Another initiative to profit from an open source project)

[Darrin]

Exactly the point. Would be nice to see them donate instead of just for a change... This will obviously benefit OS4 tremendously.

Its either this or os4 users have to pay for the firefox port. (Another initiative to profit from an open source project)

As someone with skill will actually need to port it, I'd rather see them do that then donate.

[nicholas]

As someone with skill will actually need to port it, I'd rather see them do that then donate.

If the money in the pot falls short there won't be any source to port.

[dammy]

As someone with skill will actually need to port it, I'd rather see them do that then donate.

Ben codes?

[klx300r]

bounty is looking good, thanks for taking this on Fab:pint:

[takemehomegrandma]

"But we already have 'MUI-OWB' for OS4"...?

No, what you have is a very ancient version of the browser now called Odyssey (version 1.9), and Odyssey has been updated 11 times since then, and this bounty will for the first time include key features that has been closed previously.

Odyssey is *very* actively developed!

The bounty also includes the optional condition:
   "If this project is successfully funded, and as long as the resulting ports stay true to the original version of the Odyssey Web Browser in terms of user experience and feature sets, Fabien Coeurjoly plans to share all source code that he will develop himself for future versions of Odyssey Web Browser for free."


And as he said at another site, he may accept code going the other way as well:

   "I'll work on my private branch, and opensource new versions. I can integrate contributions, but only if they make sense. I don't want Odyssey to end like YAM, for instance..."

Just to illustrate how much work has gone into Odyssey since the OS4 port, I'm hereby posting the changelogs from all version from all versions post "1.9":

[removed two full posts of changelogs, read them above]

And the best just got a lot better!




Changes/improvements in the new Odyssey 1.21:

Core:

• Updated to WebKit r155188 (October 2013) : big changes (and thus regressions happened in many parts of WebKit since previous Odyssey release (clipboard, drag'n'drop, network, javascript, inspector, c++0x requirements, ...). They should hopefully all be addressed.
• Updated to the new Webinspector layout.
• Fixed the layout of the FTP listing, so that the rows don't use all the available vertical space.
• Fixed a crash with self-disposing
• Localstorage databases (conf/localstorage/#?.localstorage) were not released at exit, which prevented from deleting them manually.
• Disabled non functional HTML5 MediaSource (it should help with some non-working YouTube links in HTML5 mode).
• Fixed a bug with the "view source code" function that would sometimes just show a blank view.
• The mimetype actions would not always be triggered properly in some cases (mainly because of redirections or content-disposition header). The response URL (or content-disposition filename if available) is now used when extension matching is needed.
• Added more common mimetype extensions in mimetype default configuration.
• Fixed a potential race condition at webview closing.

GUI:

• Contextual cursor was sometimes not reset to normal cursor when leaving the webview area.
• Added proxy support in network prefs section.
• If webinspector is enabled, webinspector button is now also shown in navigation toolbar.
• Added "TopSites" feature, showing most recently visited sites thumbnails. This page can be accessed from "topsites://" URL. Feel free to make suggestions about this new option. :)
• Ambient deficons are now shown in file input controls (MorphOS 3.4+ required).
• Ambient deficons are now shown in download manager lists (MorphOS 3.4+ required).
• Select all the text in the search string when searching for text in a page.
• Close google and history suggestion popup lists when the text is fully erased.
• Added a "start downloads automatically" option, which allows to skip the file requester step.
• Added a status icon to indicate if userscripts are running on a given page. The bubble help on this icon also shows which userscripts are actually running.
• In bookmarks window, quicklinks favicons and URL are now displayed, to make it easier to create and identify title-less quick links.
• Added support for multiple selection with file input elements.
• Show FTP URL as window/tab title, instead of a blank title.
• In image views, show the image filename instead of "unnamed title".
• Implemented HTML5 ColorChooser dialog, using MUI Colorwheel.
• Added a filename popup gadget for mimetype viewer.
• Added a new page URL option (defaults to "topsites: / /").
• Also show column number in javascript error/warning messages.

 

Media player:

• Updated to ffmpeg from 27.11.2013.
• Enabled support for VP9 codec.
• Audio-only media could sometimes report a null duration : in practice, it fixes a hard crash with Facebook chat audio notifications.
• Fixed a 32bits overflow with audio-only media: the visible effect was that the player would stop updating time controls at 2:32.
• Added more sanity checks in ffmpeg support.

 

Network:

• Reimplemented HTTP authentication to be more compliant. It should also fix a crash that happened when cancelling the authentication requester in some cases.
• Added support for multipart contents.
• Fixed potential crashes with data: URI handling.
• Fixed an illegal memory access that would sometimes happen at exit, when FTP was used.

 

Spellchecker:

• Misspelled words are now underlined in red instead of black.

Scripts:

• Updated YouTube_Fullscreen_Fix.js: fullscreen mode should work again. It also replaces all youtube links in right column so that the page is reloaded when clicking them, allowing the script to be executed again.

This is a *real* browser, and it's a *real, native Amiga application*, the result of real, actual development! If you want to see this program opened up as open source, thus making it possible to port it to OS4 and AROS (and ARIX), please contribute to the bounty that will make this happen!

After only a month since the bounty was opened, it has already reached (almost) half way. If you have already donated, please consider chipping in a few more bucks. Because half way still means there is another half to overcome! And it's for a good cause; this application is what will make OS4 and AROS usable for real in a modern Internet context, probably there isn't any more essential must-have application than this one!

Personally, I *already have* Odyssey (and I don't have OS4), but still I have donated *a lot more* than most OS4 users (and I haven't actually donated particularly much money, only like $50 or so, which is peanuts for something like this). So to those of you who like OS4 (or AROS), don't let this opportunity slip you away! Pick up your wallets, and head over to:

http://www.power2people.org/projects/odyssey/

:)

[Rob]

Still no Hyperion or acube donation. :p

Gee I guess they just don't see the good in a modern browser for their platform
they can't rob people for.


I will donate soon myself.

Who is Timothy D on the list?

[SamuraiCrow]

Who is Timothy D on the list?

Probably Terminills.

[AmigaClassicRule]

As this news item tells, there is a bounty open to release the MorphOS web browser Odyssey as open source so that it can be ported to AROS and OS4, including key functionality such as the capability to play HTML5 video.:cool:

This is a great opportunity for OS4 and AROS to get the same great, truly Amiga native web browsing experience as MorphOS has had since several years, and to support one of the community's best remaining developers in the process!

Some highlighted features:

• Based on r155188 WebKit (October 2013) or newer
• Javascript, CSS, DOM, SVG, Unicode, SSL, ...
• HTML5 Video / Audio support (Ogg / Theora, WEBM, MPEG4 / H264, MP3, AAC, WAV and other formats / codecs)
• Antialiased fonts and kerning, font families and support for international charsets
• MUI Interface
• Multiple tabs and windows
• Download manager with resume and history support
• Password manager
• Cookie manager
• Messages console
• Network connections manager
• Session support
• Form filling completion
• Bookmarks
• Fastlinks
• History
• Content blocking (AdBlock-like)
• URL Completion
• Configurable MIME types
• Favicon support
• Private Browsing
• Per URL settings
• Configurable contextual menus
• Configurable search engines
• Contextual cursors
• Drag and Drop support
• Clipboard support
• Spell checking support (through spellchecker.library)
• Fullscreen support
• OpenURL/Rexx support
• PDF export
• Printing support
• Plugin support
• WebInspector (FireBug-like)
• User scripting (GreaseMonkey-like)

In less than 24h after this news was posted, 42 people has already contributed $1,328 towards the bounty goal, meaning that ~18% of the bounty is already complete! :cool: So if you are a true fan of OS4 and/or AROS, make sure to put your name on the Wall of Fame at that bounty page, telling everyone that you helped making it real! :)

Go to http://www.power2people.org/projects/odyssey/ and make your donation Now!

:knuddel:

Isn't the lack of interest of donation and interest by community and desire to see this happen...is a great indication that the community itself does not care to see a good browser ported to the Amiga community? That they would rather use an ancient Ibrowser or AWeb from classical times and that they do not support AmigaOS 4.1 at all?

I mean...even if it is not true the lack of enthusiasm and the lack of donation from the Amiga community part itself...indicate so?

I am thinking here....the jack pot for success here is 7,500 dollars...that is the main goal, right? Well...assume there are very few people left in the Amiga community and majority have either died or moved on. Assume in the entire Amiga community in general there are just 1000 left...that is it...1000 left which combines the interest of the Amiga classic and new modern hardware in total..both for Amigaworld.net and Amiga.org combined there are 1000 people left in the community. If every single person donate 10 dollars you will get 10,000 donation that is more than the 7,500 and the goal would be met and the port will happen. But in total there are 120 people who donated...just 120...that shows very lack interest in this entire project.

Even if all the 1000 people who are left in this community donate 5 dollars you would still meet the goal requirement and the project will happen.

Am I missing something here? And by the way...I did donate myself so do not come at me in this angel. Maybe people do not believe AmigaOS 4.1 is a real AmigaOS and the hardware a real Amiga hardware and maybe people do not believe AmigaOS 4.1 is worthy of their time and money and would rather see this project in AmigaOS 3.9 and perhaps would rather see AmigaOS 4.1 be destroyed and die out with it's modern hardware and be still stuck in ancient old hardware that is over expense with lack of ability to do things in modern time...maybe. I am not so sure the reason  behind it.

[Rob]

Probably Terminills.

Ah, OK.  I'd wondered if it was Timothy de Groote so that's why I asked.

[OlafS3]

Isn't the lack of interest of donation and interest by community and desire to see this happen...is a great indication that the community itself does not care to see a good browser ported to the Amiga community? That they would rather use an ancient Ibrowser or AWeb from classical times and that they do not support AmigaOS 4.1 at all?

I mean...even if it is not true the lack of enthusiasm and the lack of donation from the Amiga community part itself...indicate so?

I am thinking here....the jack pot for success here is 7,500 dollars...that is the main goal, right? Well...assume there are very few people left in the Amiga community and majority have either died or moved on. Assume in the entire Amiga community in general there are just 1000 left...that is it...1000 left which combines the interest of the Amiga classic and new modern hardware in total..both for Amigaworld.net and Amiga.org combined there are 1000 people left in the community. If every single person donate 10 dollars you will get 10,000 donation that is more than the 7,500 and the goal would be met and the port will happen. But in total there are 120 people who donated...just 120...that shows very lack interest in this entire project.

Even if all the 1000 people who are left in this community donate 5 dollars you would still meet the goal requirement and the project will happen.

Am I missing something here? And by the way...I did donate myself so do not come at me in this angel. Maybe people do not believe AmigaOS 4.1 is a real AmigaOS and the hardware a real Amiga hardware and maybe people do not believe AmigaOS 4.1 is worthy of their time and money and would rather see this project in AmigaOS 3.9 and perhaps would rather see AmigaOS 4.1 be destroyed and die out with it's modern hardware and be still stuck in ancient old hardware that is over expense with lack of ability to do things in modern time...maybe. I am not so sure the reason  behind it.

First of all... if you include the 68k community you have a lot more than 1000 people, I think there are a lot more than all "NG" supporters combined, of course many using emulation instead of hardware. And there are certainly people that do not like AmigaOS or Hyperion. But the majority is simply not interested in AmigaOS running on PPC.

So simple summarize... OWB is not running on 68k and will propably not run in future. We tried to motivate the AROS devs to port OWB (the version of Fab) to port it to AROS 68k and Jason tried but did not succeed. Most of the AROS NG devs are not interested in 68k. So at least for now not interesting for 68k fans. MorphOS user already have it. Some donate because they use both systems but that is certainly a minority. So it is realistic only interesting for AmigaOS and AROS user. And for that it is a huge bounty. Look at Magellan bounty. It was virtually interesting for all platforms and was a lot lower than this bounty and did not reach the amount after a long time (I think it was more than 6 months). And it makes no sense to moan that 68k fans do not donate to a AmigaOS bounty if you cannot offer them something for their money. The amount was too high in my view (regardless if you think it is worth the money or not). If Fab wants the money shortly he can decide it is enough donation (what happened with the Magellan bounty) or has to wait till the money is there (even if it needs for example one year). Or he does not care about money and if and when the bounty sum is collected. I cannot judge that.

I have one theory... people (devs) have learned that AmigaOS fans spend virtually every sum for their hobby so if AmigaOS is involved the sum is automatically going up. It is a kind of market (on a low level of course).

[nicholas]

You can't just lay the blame at OS4 users feet, once the source is opened up this browser can be ported to 68k Amiga OS and AROS as well as OS4 so if anything of shows the lack of interest from all sections of the Amiga community.  But people are skint these days and it's close to Christmas so people's money is being spent on presents for others not on bounties for our own benefit.

[takemehomegrandma]

Who is Timothy D on the list?

[SIZE=8]-Timmy![/SIZE][/B]

:cool:

No seriously, I have no idea...



(No offense intended! )