For sale : Subway clockport USB

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I'll check tomorrow with making the video !

 
Shouldn't the price be more than 190? After all this is no more manufactured and it is going to be very RARE item which is already is.

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Now don't start! I bought mine NEW for something over 90€.
Greed is a disease, don't spread it... :hammer:

But it is true though isn't it? I mean if there is a handful amount of item left and there is a huge or great demand and no one is making them anymore...the price will go up. It is a fact, not greed.
 
This product will NO LONGER be made and when I bought mine from AmigaKit, the NEXT FOLLOWING day it was announced it is no longer going to be made. So I completely saved my skin AND LET ME TELL YOU having a USB for classic Amiga (Amiga 1200) IS AWEEEESOOMME!!
 
I mean at least he should sell it for 250 for now....in the future as time pass by it will go higher for sure.

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If it is a fact why doesn't it hold true for other Amiga items? A4000T's, A3000T's, A4000's, Cyberstorms, ppc, etc. etc. etc. None of these things sell for what they cost new. The list goes on and on and on. The Subway is not rare.

Well because those Amiga's you mentioned you can easily get a PCI USB card and hook it in your PCI slot or zorro. Those are easy to get by, but A1200 you need custom to hook into the clockport, unless you wish to spend a fortune expanding your A1200 to a tower with all the bottlenecks up to finally getting a PCI upgrade to finally get PCI USB.

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Just to rub it in I got two of them but have not installed into my Amigas yet.
 
Think I paid about £70 / £80 brand new & they are not for sale.
 
PS - Good luck with the sale.

Is it me or did you just rubbed it in?

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2 issues:
 
#1: B2000 has no clockport (unless you have a Zorro card like the Buddha IDE controller that adds one).
#2: The USB stack requires a 68020 or greater, so you'll need a CPU card. However, there is another USB stack that will work on a 68000, but is extremely limited in terms of speed and drivers.

Hehehhehe....the thought of an Amiga 500 getting a USB port gets me all tickly from the inside Why am I in love with the Amiga is beyond me...but I am in love with it!!
 
This is one computer where LEGO is an understatement...lol

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More like: If you love the Amiga, spare it from the unnecessary overhead.
 
But seriously. What do people need USB for their Amigas these days? Mouse and keyboard are better plugged in using PS/2. Printers and external HDDs are also kind of useless, if you don't have like hundreds of gigabytes of content and are restricted to a really slow internet connection or don't have a spare CF.

To me it is the BEST feature ever and external HD for me is not useless but super useful. To me using a USB external DVD player is AWESOME and helps me a lot to using CD games where if I was forced to use a VisualCD it would consume big on my HD and memory.
 
I believe I have done the best purchase when I get my USB. In your opinion Blinx it waste of money and useless for others it is a life saver from outdated scsi ports and taking away the PCMCIA for internet connection and all other things that USB could do and free off the PCMCIA port.
 
It all comes down to preference and since the market gives us choices this is what I love. Why I love Amiga so much? Because it is a machine that can be customized to the liking of the user and not limited like C64 hardware or Apple II hardware. I do not have to love it by being loyal to the 1986 usage...either.

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As long as you understand that USB wastes (notice I said "wastes" not "uses") horrendously huge amounts of cpu power to transfer data. It will completely drag down your cpu.
 
That is just the way USB is designed. They needed an excuse to force ppl to buy 3000 Mhz cpus so they invented a way to waste as much cpu power per bit as possible.
 
USB even drains your CPU power while the device is doing nothing.
 
Merely having any USB device connected is enough to start continuously draining your cpu power.
 
If you are still using a 50Mhz 030 u r in for a severe shock.

The good news I only use the USB port when I want to transfer something or use the external USB CD to run games on CD. But other than that when I do not need to use the port all devices are removed from it.

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Good luck with that one.
 
As ChaosLord said, it really produces a tremendous amount of overhead.
I don't think they made it purposely so, btw. The sad truth is that 9 out of 10 hardware/software engineers are vastly incompetent. Been that way ever since computers went past the 1GHz barrier (perhaps even a bit earlier)
 
Lastly. Your statement about the C64 made me choke a little.
The C64 is incredibly versatile. More so with the current wave of new hardware (can you say Chameleon?)

 
Chameleon is only one major hardware upgrade and as I am aware of it, it is simply another means of replacing the original disk drive, making transfer of games easier to it and being a stand alone commodore 64.
 
However, major and many different hardware upgrades such as increase of RAM, provide upgrade to the sound and graphics and other upgrades are not as versatile as the Amiga is. Maybe there is no need for it in C64 as there will be no software ever developed for it...but then again it lacks in many hardware upgrade as Amiga does. With classic Amiga if I wish to enjoy using it for more than what Commodore Inc Intended for...I have this option and there is benefit in return because I can enjoy the media of it more than say C64. If I wanted to watch movies in C64 for example I cannot and will never be able to...and if classic Amiga cannot provide that to me (with your argument) at least there is a PPC version of it such as AmigaOS 4 for example, MorphOS or even AROS...heck even WinUAE.
 
But then again you guys are working hard to convince me otherwise, why? This is all just my opinion on the matter and I love hearing your counter opinion which is what you are doing and I appreciate your input on it:). But this is just what I think on the matter and nothing else.
 
Perhaps USB on classic Amiga is slow, but maybe I can get something out of it on a 68060 at least.

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You can watch Dallas!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXLv7UosQXs

Speechless...

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No offense, but ignorance much?
Amiga users dream of the kind of support the C64 still receives.
There are like 5-10 new games released for it every year and tons of great software.
 
 
 
The C64 got the SuperCPU, the Chameleon and many more upgrades.
 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QATUjaFYbJ4
 
It can do video plenty fine.
Audio is were the troubles lie.
 
 
 
 
It's still performance wasted on luxury.
I dare say you can't play games like Quake or Duke 3D from USB, since the USB protocols produce too much overhead.

Hey do not get me wrong I LOVE COMMODORE 64 to the tea...but you are right I am ignorant on that matter. You couldn't by any chance direct me to the website where new games (5-10) come out to it, could you? I wouldn't mind downloading new stuff for the C64.

Heck if it comes to a lot of new games I wouldn't mind buying the original hardware's again!!

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Well. Most of the new games can't be downloaded for free. They're available for a price. Either as downloads or fully packaged product.
 
There's a whole host of publishing companies.
 
Your best bet is to follow this thread.
 
http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=933d1f7253778345f866fd8c35bcba04
 
Names that will commonly appear are RGCD, Protovision, Psytronik Software, and Flimsoft (although that last one I don't really like, as he's made a huge fuzz about his whole business and created infightings that lasted for a total of two weeks and almost got some of us banned).

Question! What about Amiga classic? Are there a community out there making 5 to 10 games a year commercial for Amiga classic?

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Woah! I never knew that! Thanx for telling me that Chris!
 
I guess all the negative reports I heard were with Subway and maybe Highway too.
 
I will be sure in the future to not criticize Algor or Deneb.
 
So I can buy a Deneb or Algor card and use USB without any drawbacks?!??
 
I don't know anything about them. Can I get one for my A1200T or A3000D?
 
While we are discussing USB, did WHDLoad ever fix the problem where no WHDLoad games would work while your USB stack was running?
 
What is the status of that problem? I need to know so I can inform ppl correctly.
 
p.s. Thanx for coding such awesome USB stacks!
and quadruple thanx for tlsfmem!

Do not worry ChaosLord, with the newest version of WHDLoad you can now easily play WHDLOAD game and still use your USB. WHDLoad games will now WORK with USB stack running.

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Get an Algor or a Deneb.  They don't bog down your cpu and are fast and system friendly.

Hehe, that is for Amiga 4000 right? So only Amiga 1200 have this issue?