For sale : Subway clockport USB

[danbeaver]

Seems like the posts ought to be "Interested" or "I'll pass" in the Marketplace section.

[Akiko]

The price is reasonable, surprised it is not sold already.  If it is still available when I next get paid on the 2nd January please consider me interested.

Is it me or did you just rubbed it in?

Don't worry when Jens eventually gets around to making a replacement, Subway's will be at those prices again

[danbeaver]

And remember, Vesalia had a bunch of new ones in last month, which did sell out in one week; but you never know.  Maybe the Thylacine remakes will be in a clockport version?

[Musicman]

Will it work on a B2000?

[Darrin]

Will it work on a B2000?

2 issues:

#1:  B2000 has no clockport (unless you have a Zorro card like the Buddha IDE controller that adds one).
#2:  The USB stack requires a 68020 or greater, so you'll need a CPU card.  However, there is another USB stack that will work on a 68000, but is extremely limited in terms of speed and drivers.

[AmigaClassicRule]

2 issues:
 
#1: B2000 has no clockport (unless you have a Zorro card like the Buddha IDE controller that adds one).
#2: The USB stack requires a 68020 or greater, so you'll need a CPU card. However, there is another USB stack that will work on a 68000, but is extremely limited in terms of speed and drivers.

Hehehhehe....the thought of an Amiga 500 getting a USB port gets me all tickly from the inside Why am I in love with the Amiga is beyond me...but I am in love with it!!
 
This is one computer where LEGO is an understatement...lol

[Blinx123]

Talking about rarity.

Both, the Blizzard SCSI Kit IV and Micronik Z3i are considered pretty rare. Yet both are sold for considerably less than what is being asked here for this not at all too rare Subway USB.

Anyways. Perhaps it's time to think about a new set of rules for the marketplace. Something similar to what Amibay does (e. g. "don't ask, don't tell"), but solely restricted to the marketplace.

[psxphill]

Hehehhehe....the thought of an Amiga 500 getting a USB port gets me all tickly from the inside Why am I in love with the Amiga is beyond me...but I am in love with it!!

If you're in love with the Amiga, then USB is not relevant. We didn't need it in 1986, why should we need it now?

[Methuselas]

You know, that's one thing I just don't get. Why would you end production on the subway, when it's a popular and a still asked for product? Sometimes, amigaland is frakking stupid..... *shakes head*

[Blinx123]

If you're in love with the Amiga, then USB is not relevant. We didn't need it in 1986, why should we need it now?

More like: If you love the Amiga, spare it from the unnecessary overhead.

But seriously. What do people need USB for their Amigas these days? Mouse and keyboard are better plugged in using PS/2. Printers and external HDDs are also kind of useless, if you don't have like hundreds of gigabytes of content and are restricted to a really slow internet connection or don't have a spare CF.

[Musicman]

2 issues:

#1:  B2000 has no clockport (unless you have a Zorro card like the Buddha IDE controller that adds one).
#2:  The USB stack requires a 68020 or greater, so you'll need a CPU card.  However, there is another USB stack that will work on a 68000, but is extremely limited in terms of speed and drivers.

Thanks for answering, I was not sure if anyone answers 2000 questions... I have a Fusion Forty card which, I think, would have a 68040 on it.
As for a Buddha IDE controller, if available, would it run without a Bridgeboard?
Last but not least, this is really trying to figure how to download using my PC and getting it to Amiga. don't have modem on Amiga nor a CD drive. Also no 3.5 on PC! I guess I would like to go to 3.9 from 3.1
Thanks again

[AmigaClassicRule]

More like: If you love the Amiga, spare it from the unnecessary overhead.
 
But seriously. What do people need USB for their Amigas these days? Mouse and keyboard are better plugged in using PS/2. Printers and external HDDs are also kind of useless, if you don't have like hundreds of gigabytes of content and are restricted to a really slow internet connection or don't have a spare CF.

To me it is the BEST feature ever and external HD for me is not useless but super useful. To me using a USB external DVD player is AWESOME and helps me a lot to using CD games where if I was forced to use a VisualCD it would consume big on my HD and memory.
 
I believe I have done the best purchase when I get my USB. In your opinion Blinx it waste of money and useless for others it is a life saver from outdated scsi ports and taking away the PCMCIA for internet connection and all other things that USB could do and free off the PCMCIA port.
 
It all comes down to preference and since the market gives us choices this is what I love. Why I love Amiga so much? Because it is a machine that can be customized to the liking of the user and not limited like C64 hardware or Apple II hardware. I do not have to love it by being loyal to the 1986 usage...either.

[ChaosLord]

@AmigaClassicRule

As long as you understand that USB wastes (notice I said "wastes" not "uses") horrendously huge amounts of cpu power to transfer data.  It will completely drag down your cpu.

That is just the way USB is designed.  They needed an excuse to force ppl to buy 3000 Mhz cpus so they invented a way to waste as much cpu power per bit as possible.

USB even drains your CPU power while the device is doing nothing.

Merely having any USB device connected is enough to start continuously draining your cpu power.

If you are still using a 50Mhz 030 u r in for a severe shock.

[AmigaClassicRule]

@AmigaClassicRule
 
As long as you understand that USB wastes (notice I said "wastes" not "uses") horrendously huge amounts of cpu power to transfer data. It will completely drag down your cpu.
 
That is just the way USB is designed. They needed an excuse to force ppl to buy 3000 Mhz cpus so they invented a way to waste as much cpu power per bit as possible.
 
USB even drains your CPU power while the device is doing nothing.
 
Merely having any USB device connected is enough to start continuously draining your cpu power.
 
If you are still using a 50Mhz 030 u r in for a severe shock.

The good news I only use the USB port when I want to transfer something or use the external USB CD to run games on CD. But other than that when I do not need to use the port all devices are removed from it.

[Blinx123]

The good news I only use the USB port when I want to transfer something or use the external USB CD to run games on CD. But other than that when I do not need to use the port all devices are removed from it.

Good luck with that one.

As ChaosLord said, it really produces a tremendous amount of overhead.
I don't think they made it purposely so, btw. The sad truth is that 9 out of 10 hardware/software engineers are vastly incompetent. Been that way ever since computers went past the 1GHz barrier (perhaps even a bit earlier)

Lastly. Your statement about the C64 made me choke a little.
The C64 is incredibly versatile. More so with the current wave of new hardware (can you say Chameleon?)

[AmigaClassicRule]

Good luck with that one.
 
As ChaosLord said, it really produces a tremendous amount of overhead.
I don't think they made it purposely so, btw. The sad truth is that 9 out of 10 hardware/software engineers are vastly incompetent. Been that way ever since computers went past the 1GHz barrier (perhaps even a bit earlier)
 
Lastly. Your statement about the C64 made me choke a little.
The C64 is incredibly versatile. More so with the current wave of new hardware (can you say Chameleon?)

 
Chameleon is only one major hardware upgrade and as I am aware of it, it is simply another means of replacing the original disk drive, making transfer of games easier to it and being a stand alone commodore 64.
 
However, major and many different hardware upgrades such as increase of RAM, provide upgrade to the sound and graphics and other upgrades are not as versatile as the Amiga is. Maybe there is no need for it in C64 as there will be no software ever developed for it...but then again it lacks in many hardware upgrade as Amiga does. With classic Amiga if I wish to enjoy using it for more than what Commodore Inc Intended for...I have this option and there is benefit in return because I can enjoy the media of it more than say C64. If I wanted to watch movies in C64 for example I cannot and will never be able to...and if classic Amiga cannot provide that to me (with your argument) at least there is a PPC version of it such as AmigaOS 4 for example, MorphOS or even AROS...heck even WinUAE.
 
But then again you guys are working hard to convince me otherwise, why? This is all just my opinion on the matter and I love hearing your counter opinion which is what you are doing and I appreciate your input on it:). But this is just what I think on the matter and nothing else.
 
Perhaps USB on classic Amiga is slow, but maybe I can get something out of it on a 68060 at least.