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Offline nicholas

These machines aren't Amigas therefore they should not be on the BBOAH.
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Offline nicholas

Quote from: vox;745305
There is Minimig, and author accepts these as valid entries, no matter what is your opinion of these boards.

Call it sacrilege, but it will be done. Even PPC Macs if MOS users demand so :-)

Nobody would.

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Wiki does so
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_models_and_variants#PowerPC-based_Amiga_models_.28post_Commodore.29

AMIGA is also machine running AmigaOS, not just chipset based computer with 68k named AMIGA.

No it isn't. A PPC motherboard running "AmigaOS" is an AmigaOne not an Amiga. This was clearly laid out and accepted as fact by both parties in the Amiga Inc vs Hyperion trial yet you don't accept it.  Why?

An Amiga is a computer based around a 68k CPU and OCS/ECS/AGA chipset manufactured by CBM or Escom.

One of my closest and dearest friends is one the OS4 developers and even he doesn't say that these PPC motherboards are Amigas.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2013, 06:38:24 PM by nicholas »
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Offline nicholas

Quote from: klx300r;745307
funny so all the classics running PPC boards to use AmigaOS are no longer Amigas:angry:


Read my post more carefully.
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Offline nicholas

So are you going to include every Intel, AMD and VIA CPU/motherboard combination that AROS runs on in this new dream of yours?

Raspberry Pi too?

How about every Android phone and tablet that AROS also happens to run on?
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Offline nicholas

Quote from: Nostalgiac;745332
yap, I certainly agree... but as per usual most suspects favour in-fighting and bring everything down with them... sigh...

Tom UK


Any hardware post-Escom is not an Amiga nor is any OS made by Hyperion allowed to be called "Amiga OS", this was made quite clear during the court case and accepted by both Amiga Inc and Hyperion.

Why is this so hard to accept for some people?
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Offline nicholas

Quote from: vox;745335

As well as AmigaOne is board series made to run AmigaOS as sucessor, being extension of Amiga on PPC arhitecture.


AmigaOne != Amiga
AmigaOS  != Amiga OS

Please answer my questions regarding AROS hardware.
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Offline nicholas

Quote from: Duce;745339
I see absolutely no harm in having pages for "Amiga NG Systems" or "Amiga like systems".  

They have pertinence and interest amongst the Amiga community.  Don't let narrow vision and crippling definitions of what one perceives as an "Amiga" keep helpful info off a site like BBOAH.

I can fire up my MOS machine or my SAM and run a classic Amiga program just fine, no emulation required.  I know neither machine has a C= logo on the case, I know they aren't Amiga's.  But are they of interest and in relation to the Amiga lineage?

I believe so.  

If having a SAM or MOS box on BBOAH is something that will keep you up nights, I truly worry about y'all, lol.


It's about pollution.
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Offline nicholas

Quote from: vox;745340
I believe iMica and AresOne deserve the entries, just don`t have the hardware to do high res pictures and entries.

Hardware architecture can and should change.


Why not my phone? It runs AROS just as well as those machines.
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Offline nicholas

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Offline nicholas

Quote from: vox;745352
Thanks, didn`t know there is AROS for Android

You are welcome to send an entry if you desire so. However, if I am correct, these are running AROS as VM, not natively, but nevermind.


No not running in a VM but running hosted on top of the Linux kernel like MorphOS runs hosted on the Quark Kernel.
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Offline nicholas

Quote from: Duce;745354
Who is the ultimate judge on what constitutes "pollution"?  Who sets the bar as to purity?  Sort of subjective upon whoever is looking at things, no?

I've got very little interest in legacy Amiga stuff these days.  If someone was to post legacy machine info on a NG Amiga site I visit, would I be offended and call it "pollution"?  No.  I likely wouldn't read it if it held none of my interest and leave it at that.  Such a case would be loosely related to what I am interested in, but really offer me nothing, so I simply would skip over it just like I do the sports page in the morning newspaper.  Not my cup of tea, but certainly not "pollution" if someone gets value out of it even if I do not.

I know that sports section is there everyday in my newspaper, and that someone surely enjoys it even if I do not, and that's it's ultimately my choice to disregard it.  I don't lose sleep over that sports section, you know?

Whatever happened to people having the personal free will to just read what is interesting to them and ignore what they do not like, or what they are not interested in.


Because, as it's name clearly states, The Big Book of Amiga Hardware is a site dedicated solely to documenting Amiga hardware and nothing else.

You have already admitted yourself that OS4 and MorphOS machines are not Amigas, therefore they do not belong on that site. Simple as that.
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Offline nicholas

Quote from: itix;745356
I agree with others. Lets not pollute BBOAH with NG Amiga stuff. If it can execute 68k code natively then it should be added. That is where I would draw the line.

NG stuff running AROS/OS4/MorphOS could have a dedicated site instead.


But teh reel!
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Offline nicholas

Quote from: Duce;745365
I admitted it myself on my own beliefs and nothing more.  Ones definition of an Amiga may only be towards C= hardware and not AT or Escom.

That being said, the "Amiga" right beside me clearly says "Amiga OS" on the titlebar at the top of the Workbench screen.  It'll run pretty much any classic, legacy software I try on it.  In that sense it is an Amiga, no?

:)

Correct, no.

It's an industrial PPC motherboard designed for the embedded market running a clone of the Amiga Operating system that doesn't even have the legal right to use the word Amiga, just AmigaOS.

Look closer, does it say AmigaOS or Amiga OS? If the latter then someone ought to tell the legal owners of that trademark as I'm sure their lawyers would be very interested to know.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2013, 01:24:04 AM by nicholas »
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Offline nicholas

Quote from: Methuselas;745377
@ Nik,


Troll! :smack:


Oh yeah, silly me, I forgot that when you tell the truth to the true believers it's trolling. ;)
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Offline nicholas

Quote from: wawrzon;745436
+1

the whole action is nothing but another desperate attempt to crap all over the genuine amiga fans sandbox to spoil their game if they dont convert. and this just by individual actionists of some other system. im sorta tired of being haunted by freaks like that. as usual morphos users show more reason, integrity and respect to amiga legacy.


+1
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