Amy Winehouse dead

[Franko]

Seems like the singer Amy Winehouse has died from a drug overdose, never was a fan or even liked her music but it's still kinda sad that yet another popstar has died so young and all because of drugs...

Why so many people (rich, famous or poor & anonymous ) feel the need to  take drugs and cut their lives short is one thing I'll never understand, such a waste of life...

[Franko]

It is a pity the sellers of drug from London are going to weep for its loss, have lost its best client, but in its record company they must be of holidays, now they are going to sell its new disc easily.

Very true and nothing cynical in what you said...

There is a simple solution to the "Drugs Problem" if the government & police can't see to be effective in getting rid of the drug dealers then deal with it at it's source... ie: the users...

The answer is really quite simple arrest & execute anyone who is a drug user thus eliminating the drug dealers customer base and so no users = no drug dealers...

Of course this would mean a drastic cull of the population in most parts of the world including MPs, Police, Judges, Lawers, Doctors, Nurses and any other profession you care to mention, but think of the benefits, it's a win win solution...

PS: and for those who claim they take illegal drugs for medicinal purposes, I say bollocks, I've known a number of people who claimed that and know for a fact they were nothing but liars...

[Franko]

Cannabis is the only medicine that eases the symptoms of Multiple Sclerosis.

Yeah I know someone personally who told me that, trouble was we (all his friends) found out after about 3 years there was sod all wrong with the git and he was just using it to screw the social... suffice to say he got a very large fine and now has to work for a living (and has a lot less friends)...

[Franko]

You can't fake MS.

This guy did and even to this day no-one has a clue how he managed to con the social for 3 years solid with it... :madashell:

He started of by always moaning that his legs were kinda numb and he could do much for himself anymore, then it was his arms and then his speech (he was an alcoholic by the way). Anyway he got early retirement from Tarmac where I worked at the time and for about 2 years he had me and all his friends and our wives doing everything for him...

The thing that made everyone suspicious was how he somehow managed to make it to the pub 7 days week and as he got more drunk his speech improved and he could even manage to play pool without any problems...

He was finally caught by the DHSS when they took pictures of him fishing with some mates and larking about and actually helping two others who where with him on this fishing trip, lift another person up and throw him in the river for a laugh... :furious:

As far as we know he had to pay back 3 years worth of DLA & incapacity benefit along with a fine, they got him a job as a binman (which he still does to this very day, when sober that is) and as far as we know he is still paying off the fine and the money back... suffice to say after conning everyone he's not exactly welcome here anymore and thankfully moved to another part of town...

I know cannabis is proven to be of medical value for certain medical conditions, but when you use it for "recreational" use then I'm happy to say that anyone who does so and it either ruins their life or leads them to harder drugs, I have no sympathy for them whatsoever...

It's quite simple... if it weren't for the users there would be no drug dealers...

[Franko]

Funny you say all this as i had this same idea about cigarette smokers.

The big difference is being a cigarette smoker it's...

A) Legal & fully endorsed by the government...

B) on each packet of tobacco I buy I pay 85% of the purchase price on TAX...

&

C) Smoking fags doesn't rot me brain, make me say wow man at the end of every sentence or make me jump off tall buildings thinking I can fly...

oh and...

D) Encourage and benefit scumbag drug dealers to get rich and ruin local communities...

[Franko]

@ XDelsuion

Marijuana may be classed as a herb but in most societies it used as a recreational drug not something for cooking or garnishing meals...

Celebs and their self inflicted drug induced suicides are hardly something to feel sorry for or have sympathy with, or putting it down to the industry that they work in, is sorry mate but that's nothing but BS. The pampered & luxury life they lead in said industry can hardly compare to a soldier sent overseas to fight and see the horrors of war in a foreign land, that's what you call being in a strange world so far from home...

The things firemen, police, armed forces personnel,  medical & healthcare workers and  all others in similar dangerous & caring but beneficial professions to our society have to see and do, is far worse than anything any poncy & pampered celebrity or sportstar will ever be exposed to, so for me there is no sympathy for such people other than the sadness of what is usually a waste of a young life through self inflicted substance abuse...

I don't smoke packs of cigarettes but roll my own with tobacco, which doesn't contain quite the amount of chemicals that packaged cigarettes do, but still doesn't do my body or health any good and yes I know all about what goes into tobacco and all the nasty effects it has on the person using it...

I defence of tobacco over marijuana, I would say tobacco has never led me to dabble in other even more dangerous and illicit drugs unlike marijuana whom of all the people I know who smoke it for a good 75% of them it has led to them stronger drugs and killed quite a number of them over the past 20 odd years in my life...

As for me and my smoking, well apart from the fact I genuinely enjoy smoking, I have no worries about dying from cancer or other health related problems as short of an accident, murder or catching some unexpected fatal illness, I already KNOW what is going to end my life and so do my doctors and there is sod all anyone in the medical profession can do to prevent it. I have even been told by my neurosurgeon (he would only say it off the record, because of professional ethics) not to bother to give up smoking if I enjoy it so much, as like I say it aint gonna kill me...

[Franko]

Was this a joke or are you being serious?  :confused:

PS if you die can i have your A1200T (kidding)?

Serious... I already made a thread about it way back last year somewhere in the coffee house...

[Franko]

PS if you die can i have your A1200T (kidding)?

Seeing as how you asked nicely, then yes...

You can pick it up at the Bus Stop (the 281 Bathgate to Edinburgh stops at the bottom of me street, just ask the driver, he'll know)...

[Franko]

Franko, you do realize that my ancestors made use of sacramental herb for different reasons than those that dominate modern "white culture" right?

The kind of people you are describing annoy the he'll outta me too!

Yeah I do know quite a bit about native American Indian traditions and the use of hallucinogenic plants in ceremonies...

There's a big difference between that and taking drugs just to get a high for the sake of it...

One of the main things that irks me in this country about drugs is, if your unfortunate to be rushed into hospital these days, the first question they ask you is "what kind of drugs do you take" (and they aint talking prescribed)...

It's probably the only thing in life I find highly offensive... :madashell:

It would seem that these days, it's expected that everyone takes or uses some kind of drugs and although I know plenty of people from all walks of life and professions that do take drugs (and many who have ruined their lives and careers and families not to mention even died) from this crazy habit, I've never had the urge to do so myself and only see the damage it has done to others and our local community...

There are many things wrong with this world from politics to society in general but it just makes me mad & sad to watch people ruining a perfectly good life all for the sake of taking something that gives them a few moments of pleasure and a lifetime of misery...

If there's one topic I will never change my view on it's drugs, I've heard all the petty excuses from friends, family & colleagues over the years and none of it washes with me...

[Franko]

@ XDelusion

Ahh, I guessed as much, the excuses of a drug user...

Sorry mate heard that one and many, many others all before, and stick by everything I say about EVERY person who chooses to use illegal drugs...

I even know staff (ie: nurses) in my local hospital (which I have to attend on a regular basis) who smoke joints and/ or pop pills. I refuse to allow them to treat me and always ask for someone else if they are assigned to me, as I simply don't know if they are not still intoxicated while on duty and could end up giving me the wrong medication or treatment...

I would have no objections to drug users if they didn't have an effect on my life but unfortunately they do as they are the ones who keep the dealers where I live in business which turns the place into a dangerous place to live...

Like I say no drug users = no drug dealers... simple as...

[Franko]

I don't use drugs. I'm not prescribed a thing, and I've no interest in acquiring those deadly government pills illegally.

Also pot does not cause hang overs. Alcohol does, so you might wanna ask your nurse or doc if she drank the night before.

You just said in your other post "Anyhow, as for me, it's a nice thing to come home and relax to at the end of the night. I smoke about 1 Gram total a night if that, which is about the equivalent of one cigarette." and now your denying you are a drug user... :rolleyes:

Denial is always a sign of someone hooked on drugs...

If I have reason to believe a nurse or Doctor is "hungover" I  DO ASK THEM and ask to be treated by someone else instead...

[Franko]

Man made = drug, an herb is an herb.

Denial is always a sign of someone with perceptual dysfunction as advocated by the "opinion makers" behind the consolidated media.

That's where people always seem to get their strange ideas.

@ XDelusion

Cmon you can come up with something better than that...

You are not using it as a herb, you are using it as a narcotic hence it's a drug...

If I had a penny for every time I heard those old excuses I'd have a least a five pound note by now...

The only person who forms my opinions is me, if I were ever to believe all that the "media" say then I would be as well to just start being a junkie too and live in that fantasy world as well...

[Franko]

Pot is not a narcotic. Ha ha ha!!!

Yes it is. He he he!!!

Oh, and have a Ho Ho Ho just for good measure... :p

[Franko]

You're on crack!

Damn... rumbled... :eek: