Commodore Scotland Under Threat...

[Franko]

My parents used to run about with Stiff Little Fingers and other punk bands.

By all accounts, SLF were complete kittys.

Just thought i'd let you know.

That's fine by me some of my best friends & family are like that...

Gotta be honest, I couldn't care if they were mass murders or even CUSA employees, they made some of the best punk music ever...

[Franko]

:pint: :banana: :hat: :afro:

/me throws a bag of popcorn in the microwave...

Could you tell me where it's going, cos I haven't got the foggiest...

On a totally unrelated subject however I would just like to take this opportunity to say...

Chocolate spanners, mince 'n' tattie, worms with big bums and of course the obligatory Wibble...

Oi you get down off my ceiling...

Where did my dead dog go...

The fairies at the bottom of me garden are really, really fat & smelly and they're at least 200 feet tall sideways...

My meds are running out...

Help...

Too late beyond help now...

[Franko]

Commodore Amiga Iran will be hosting all legacy Kickstarts and installation media for Amiga OS versions from 1.x to 4.x on their website as free downloads as a gift to the community.

If there is any ROMs or indeed any Amiga software Commodore Amiga Iran requires then Commodore Scotland will be more than happy to supply it free of charge of course...

(might even ask Mr George Galloway if he can deliver them personally on his next trip...

[Franko]

When does the Commodore Amiga Iran site go up?  I need some free downloads!  
 
You could use Commodore Amiga China also, they don't subscribe to our laws on copyrights and ignore them all the time.  :roflmao:

Well I was hoping to have my new site up and running today "AmigaUK.com" and thus allowing CommodoreScotland.com to get back to business as usual...

Unfortunately my old host of "AmigaUK.com" mucked up the transfer and so it's going to be a few more days before you can access your nice free downloads again...

[Franko]

Want me to give him your salaams next time I see him?

If you would please, and ask him where that barrel of oil is he promised me for certain favours I did when he MP for Glasgow Hillhead district...

[Franko]

At the end of the day I really don't give a monkey's who owns any of it...

If all these a-hole companies who claim to own it then why don't they do one of two things...

Release the damn stuff at a fair price so that folk looking for it can easily purchase it and don't give me the crap that you can legally buy it on Amiga Forever, why should someone who has no use for Amiga Forever be forced to purchase that to obtain just the Workbench disks or ROM images... :madashell:

Or cut the crap out altogether and just let it be placed in the public domain where it really belongs in this day and age...

There is fat chance of either happening as the A-holes who claim ownership over this stuff would rather let it rot than see the Amiga community putting it to good use... :madashell:

F the lot of them I say and same to all those who harp on about it still being copyright...

[Franko]

You can look at it differently: 9.99EUR for ROM 1.3 and OS 1.3, 29.99EUR for all ROMs and Workbench versions. And you get a free simulation program with it that you may choose not to use.

greets,
Staf.

Or you can look at it this way, just google the net and get them for free and then you don't have to be conned into buying a "simulation program" that you don't want...

[Franko]

Wowsers... :eek:

What's with the sudden the sudden let's attack or support Cloanto malarky in this thread... :confused:

Must be because the "they that shall not be named" threads have disappeared off the front page... :biglaugh:

Personally I've got nowt against Cloanto, as they seem quite happy to "give away" along with their products old games (even though they do claim that they have permission to do so) so to me Cloanto and their "Amiga/ C64 Forever" products are just encouraging people to find old games/apps online to use...

Lets face it and be honest here, how many folks who bought Amiga Forever to use on a PC had kept all their original (or even owned in the first place) games and then cracked/converted them to ADFs to use with Amiga Forever on their PC, not many I'd reckon...

Basically Cloantos "Forever" products just encourages folk to find old game or apps from all those online sites where you can either download them for free or worse pay these sites a fee for x amount or unlimited downloads and yet oddly I don't hear the copyright mafia screaming blue murder about Cloanto encouraging the use of old & still copyrighted software that can really only be obtained in such "illegal" ways these days... :rolleyes:

Amiga ROM images don't need "Amiga Forever" or a PC to use them, for example folks with real Amiga Hardware can use ROM images in the likes of BlizKick to name but one...

Me I just give them away totally free and in fact it costs me money to run the site, so who's really the baddie here...

(PS: I do own Cloantos Amiga Forever which I bough a few years ago and have had no use for it, not even the ROM images and why do they encode the ROM images on their CDs ")

[Franko]

@ actung_bab

I think it's an empty barrel, still one day old gorgeous George may just "Roll out the Barrel"...

@ AmigaEd

Not sure meself, but to be honest I don't know where all this Cloanto stuff has sprung up from, maybe it's the next big thing round here thread after thread about Cloanto and perhaps Red could do another in depth report/visit to their HQ (just need to make sure they don't slip him some more "Coke" this time...)

[Franko]

+1

-2

[Franko]

Ok I would support you on that part of it, if the Roms and Workbench where not legally for sale any where then I would support and understand you position. Simple fact they are.

If you really want the Kickstart to be free and open you should support the Kickstart Replacement effort, like Cloanto have. http://www.power2people.org/projects/profile/6

Do you intend to support Amiga shows, put money towards bounty's and help further develop Amiga emulation? With money Cloanto raise that is what they do. You may not think your doing anything wrong and provide a service that a lot of other people already provide, but I like Amiga Forever and its program and hope it continues to be developed, your efforts only hurt them efforts by cloanto.

Why would I support Amiga Shows, there hasn't been in my neck of the woods for at least 15 years

Why would I support Amiga Emulation I don't use it and never will

You may like Amiga Forever but to me it's a program for PCs and I have no interest in PCs whatsoever, I've got nothing against Cloanto I bought and paid for PPaint a long, long time ago and I've even bought Amiga Forever about 2 years back when I was considering actually buying a PC until I came to my senses...

Don't understand why you would think I personally would support such things, obviously you have never actually read any of my posts before or you would have known this by now...

As for supporting things I did say in a thread quite a while back that I would be willing to support the NatAmi project but it seems that the NatAmi team did not need financial support...

On the question of support why do you not help to support Amiga.org yourself by paying for a membership, I mean you use it often enough to post your views so the least you could do is help support them...

[Franko]

You know that you are the dubbed king of keeping "the 'they that shall not be named' threads" on the front page, right?

Bow before your mighty king... peasant...

[Franko]

Franko where is this big plan of yours that's supposedly going on behind the scenes? :confused:

You can't declare war like that and not back it up :rtfm:

Nothing "supposed" about it...

For several days now there has been a hell of a lot going on behind the scenes and it's not good strategy to release your battle plans to the enemy is it...

[Franko]

Have to agree.  I have bought several products from cloanto and they are a great company all round.
 
Franko has some master plan?  is that to annoy as many people as possible.
 
If I am 100% honest I don't see Franko's participation on Amiga.org as beneficial in anyway shape or form.  

Tough S&!t Mr Hypocrite, what you think of me doesn't matter one wee bit...

[Franko]

Don't see how not liking you makes me a hypocrite ? Please explain

I never said you not liking me made you a hypocrite, I call you a hypocrite based on these posts and the fact that you seem to respond to me personally in a lot of yours posts !!!

and now you suddenly claim ...

If I am 100% honest I don't see Franko's participation on Amiga.org as beneficial in anyway shape or form.

I refer you to these posts...

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=610104&postcount=15

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=610713&postcount=79

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=576352&postcount=6

Now if that's not being a hypocrite then gawd knows what is...

[Franko]

What I was trying to point out is that Cloanto is only able to support Amiga Shows, Amiga related bountys, Amiga Users, and future develop their software through sales of Amiga Forever and it roms, if your offering them for free, how do you expect them to contiue to support such areas?


Why, when the web site free, unlike the Roms.

I do like amiga,org and if it ever really needed money to say online I might help it out, and I have donated to a few bounty and bought a lot of games and attended a few amiga shows, hope to run amiga web site soon myself (out of my own money) and run a you tube account and planning to get an OS4 machine this year so I believe I support the Amiga community quite well thank you.

If Amiga.org did not need any monetary help from it's users then what would be the point in them asking for a very reasonable fee to have a full membership, or for them to have a section for folk to donate money towards maintaining the site

So instead of claiming you support the Amiga community put your money where your mouth is and either donate or pay for a full membership, as I say you do use it very regularly...

In the past 25 years I have bought countless Amiga games and attended some shows, but as there hasn't been a show anywhere near where I live for at least 15 years then why would I choose to pay to support shows that I cannot attend

You don't have to pay for a YouTube account so what does that have to do with anything

And what does you buying an "OS4 machine" have to do with supporting the Amiga Community

You really have some strange ways of looking at things...