CommodoreUSA site updated

[Franko]

You be hard pushed to find a bigger fan of the names Commodore & Amiga than me, but what does it matter that CommodoreUSA are using the these names. Anyone who has the smallest inkling of what the C64 or Amiga really is won't be fooled into thinking these machines are the real thing.

If some unsuspecting numptie comes along and buys one of these things then hey, thats tough luck for them if they think they are getting the real deal, they should have done their homework first before parting with their cash. All the views expressed here including mine won't make the slightest bit of difference to CommodoreUSA.

They are nothing more than us Amiga users passing the time with some idle chit chat very much like the Natami thread has become (do the folk who post and argue about which processor it should have used really think there going to affect the end product, I think not...

So lets remember whatever our feelings and views on CommodoreUSA are, at the end of the day nothing any of us say here will matter one little bit to them and whatever their business plan may be...

Carry on debating... it's all in the name of entertainment...

(PS:I've just nicked the Commodore logos from their site to use on my site as I thought they were quite well done and better than the one's I'd nicked from another site...

[Franko]

Also what's under the hood is not of importance to me. Price and how the computer behaves is more important.

That's an odd statement... :confused:

If what's under the hood doesn't matter then you be quite happy to buy a load of junk just because it was cheap and behaved well. What happens when the pile of junk you bought breaks down after six months do you continually go on buying junk until you've spent more than you would have if you initially paid out on some decent hardware

One thing I've learnt over the years is if you want the best you have to pay for it, being a skinflint usually costs you more in the long run...

[Franko]

@ Manu
Ahh... I did wonder if you really meant it to come across like that. I see what you mean now, and having bought two second hand iMacs I certainly wouldn't pay the retail price for one of their machines...
(they may be good quality & components in a mac but most of the price is paying for the name & the looks...

[Franko]

@Franko
Just had a look at your site and I am thinking of getting one of those C64 you have got there...when will they be available?

The McC64 is available now, just leave a stash of used tenners in a large brown envelope just under the large boulder behind the third park bench on the left (that's left if you enter the park via the west gate and right if you enter via the hole in the fence to the east...)

The Small Print...
These goods are sold as unseen
They may or may not work or even exist
All goods are fully guaranteed as working for at least one nanosecond after they are shipped
Any damage to Life, Limb or personal property is just tough luck
(although any pictures of such an event would be appreciated for my own personal amusement...)
Shipping time is approximately 700 years,
Please direct any queries about refunds or complaints to Care Of: The Bin...

[Franko]

The people on this forum are basing CUSA because they find the idea of new equipment that might actually sell outside of the existing user base to be a threat to their 'elite' status.  The very fact that you declare there to be a group of 'real Amigans' confirms this.

@ Belia6

What a load of total cobblers, I don't consider because I am an Amiga user of 25 years that this somehow make me an elitist, it's dunderheeds like you who bandy such claptrap about that are the one who think they are elitist. Why don't you take you silly views and stick them up yer bahooky... what a total numptie... :lol:

@ Kesa
Where you been hiding, I was starting to think the floating turd had got you...

[Franko]

LOL! Run for president man, or prime minister...

Nah... imagine the number of assassination attempts I'd get, it's hard enough being a coffin dodger let alone dodging bullets...

(Although if I did I'd ban PC's and put an Amiga in every home...

[Franko]

B I N G O !!! there are millions of people out there that used to use COMMODORE or AMIGA !!! I am a perfect example of this... My 1st computer was a Vic 20 followed by c64,128, a1000,500,2000,3000T when I shut off my Amiga in 97 I didn't touch them until a few years ago when I was home at my parents over Christmas and was bored and found them up in the attic. I brought them home with me and they have been used daily for a few years now. In the time I was away I had no idea that Winuae, Morphos, Aros, OS4 exc even existed. I think each camp has become so close minded that they can't see how much potential CUSA has to bringing back old users and software developers. If ever there was a way to catch the attention of old users it is by using the name COMMODORE and AMIGA !!!! I'll wait and see but IMO CUSA has the potential to sell a lot of units bring back many old users that don't even know we still exist..

@ don27dog

Your post is the perfect example of why Commodore USA upsets a lot of folk. That's the whole point folk are trying to make here against Commodore USA is folk like yourself who have been away from the Commodore scene for a while will be fooled into thinking (if you don't do your homework first before you buy) that you are buying a brand new Amiga or C64 based on the original machines hardware & architecture...

What you will in fact be buying is nothing more than a custom built case with off the shelf parts running an emulator, thats what upsets a lot of folk as CUSA are promoting these things as if they were an updated version of the original CBM machines, which they are not...

I mean a company with so much money to spend intent on alienating the folk who may have been most interested in their products makes no sense whatsoever, hell they cant even get their own marketing or wording right on their site...:rolleyes:

Commodore® trademark used under exclusive worldwide license by Commodore USA, LLC for its line of AIO (All-In-One) keyboard computers, and is the trademark of Commodore Licensing, BV, registered in the United States and other countries. Amiga® trademark used under exclusive worldwide license by Commodore USA, LLC for its line of AIO (All-In-One) keyboard computers, and is the trademark of Amiga Inc., registered in the United States and other countries.

How on earth can their Amiga range be classed as an All-In-One keyboard computer when the ruddy keyboard is separate from the main desktop box, makes about as much sense as anyone daft enough to buy one of the things...

[Franko]

You know something all this claptrap about Commodore USA is really quite pointless, amusing but pointless...

I've lasted for 25 years using the original Amiga hardware on a daily basis and original Commodore computers since 1982 when I got my first Vic 20, so whatever CUSA finally produces will not really mean much to me and the same can be said about A-Eon and the X1000, the site still says due late 2010 and even when you signed up for their mailing list you don't even get one email from them sod the lot of em I say...

[Franko]

In other news, I'm creating my own commodore (and amiga) company and website... No really I am. I haven't decided what I'm going to sell yet, BUT it will all be branded commodore and commodore amiga. I personally challenge Barry Altman, CUSA, Amiga inc, Bill Mcsilly, Hyperion or anyone else to sue me to try and enforce any commodore or amiga trademarks or copyrights.
 
Steven

Hawd ra bus wan wee minute... :madashell:

I'm just in the process of creating a new page on CommodoreScotland.com where I am pointing out to the bewildered that the CUSA stuff is in no way whatosever the real deal...

Now Im gonna have to add another page pointing out to folk that your stuffs a rip off too...

C'mon geeza brek...

(PS: You can't use AmigaUK.com, cos I've bought that one too...

[Franko]

Damn you guys are tenacious!

I can't believe you're all still tossing this one about!

Hey, someone has had the balls to reunite the Commodore and Amiga trademarks and is trying to resurrect a long dead business entity.

If the endeavor doesn't meet all the requirements that you hold dear in some fantasy of what such a project should look like - so be it.

Its Altman's project, and he's going to do things his way.

@ Iggy

Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA

Just wondering if you'll stick by your post made on 2nd of September 2010, as you seem to be changing you tune just a wee bit in support of CUSA...

I'll give him till Christmas, and maybe even a little longer, but if he can't produce what he's announced then he's dishonest. Until then, he's just doing what plenty of other small computer resellers do.

[Franko]

But I can't see the rationale in making these announcements, creating this website, and paying for prototype C64 cases without the intent to generate a return on his investment.

Essentially, what I'm saying is that it would defy good common sense or sane business principles.

I agree with that wholeheartedly, I do reckon he'll produce something but it's not the kind of stuff I'm keen on buying, The Natami looks better for my needs and the X1000 I've given up hope on...

[Franko]

How about a nice AmigaOne?  I haven't turned mine on in months.

What happened to the other project you were needing motivation to do recently

Is that out the window again...