CommodoreUSA site updated

[adz]

Presumably people who spend time on amiga forums.

Uh-huh, and this site has how many active users? :lol:

[the_leander]

I do get it.

Clearly not, but it's clear that you're deliberately ignoring the difference in order to name call.

Fair play.

[Belial6]

Are these people selling or attempting to sell these avatars to members of the public?

Is this company trying to sell the artwork to members of the public?

That he deliberately has chosen to ignore on several threads already.

Yes, he has ignored people who did not own the copyright on the artwork.  As far as I know, not once has CUSA ignored the request of the copyright owner to remove the art.  You don't get to decide what is done with that artwork any more than CUSA does.

[Iggy]

So far, I haven't seen anyone complain about their art work being stolen.

And when this non-issue has come up in the past, Barry has stated that if it was an issue then he'd hoped the IP holder would contact him so that he could negotiate compensation.

You guys are awfully preachy when you mention this.

I think you're grasping at straws to justify your prejudiced opinions.

[the_leander]

Is this company trying to sell the artwork to members of the public?

We've had this conversation before (twice now, I think).

[adz]

You guys are awfully preachy when you mention this.

Not been here long have you :lol:

[kedawa]

I don't understand how having the legal right to use the name makes these products any more appealing.

[adz]

I don't understand how having the legal right to use the name makes these products any more appealing.

It doesn't, but that's not gonna stop our resident armchair lawyers having a sook about it :lol:

[the_leander]

I don't understand how having the legal right to use the name makes these products any more appealing.

Having the legal right doesn't so much, but the name itself does have some value, even if only to the nostalgia crowd.

[haywirepc]

If you check their website under products...
 
Thats lets see thats 5 computers listed then 2 more in the future models section...
 
There was the "amigo" the websurf all in one keyboard computer that mysteriously disappeared from their new site, along with the other slap a sticker on it and call it a commodore model ( That one was really the eee all in one pc with built in lcd screen)
 
So thats lets see thats 9 computers announced and hyped up and announced as "coming soon" since April... (3 of which were just slap a sticker on it and call it a commodore)  So far? They have had available for purchase just the cybernet zpc with a commodore sticker slapped on it, that only one person that we know of has purchased. Interesting, that one guy who bought one? That guy got a new job out of it though... as their chief technical officer. (Your kidding me right?)
 
Commodore usa - 9 computers announced in 10 months (2 cancelled or dissapeared so far, with zero explanation as to why) I think what happened is they ran out of stickers early in their budget or something.
 
10 months of hype and all they did was slap a commodore sticker on one cybernet zpc, sell it to one person, then give him a job as their new chief technical officer.
 
So lets see how long it takes for the other 7 computers to dissapear from their website with no explanation or get cancelled as products.
 
Maybe they truly had or have good intentions, but their track record so far just sucks if you ask me. Having good ideas or plans dosn't mean anything if you can't deliver. Real companies don't start announcing new products before they have working prototypes.
 
Stop hyping and announcing NEW products, start delivering what you've already announced and hyped up.
 
Steven

[Iggy]

I don't understand how having the legal right to use the name makes these products any more appealing.

Then you don't understand why people would buy boing ball mice or keyboards either (but they do).

Looking at the artwork, the 1000, 2000 and 3000 look a lot like black Amigas. With Commodore and Amiga logos, I can see the appeal.

[Iggy]

If you check their website under products...
 
Thats lets see thats 5 computers listed then 2 more in the future models section...
 
There was the "amigo" the websurf all in one keyboard computer that mysteriously disappeared from their new site, along with the other slap a sticker on it and call it a commodore model ( That one was really the eee all in one pc with built in lcd screen)
 
So thats lets see thats 9 computers announced and hyped up and announced as "coming soon" since April... (3 of which were just slap a sticker on it and call it a commodore)  So far? They have had available for purchase just the cybernet zpc with a commodore sticker slapped on it, that only one person that we know of has purchased. Interesting, that one guy who bought one? That guy got a new job out of it though... as their chief technical officer. (Your kidding me right?)
 
Commodore usa - 9 computers announced in 10 months (2 cancelled or dissapeared so far, with zero explanation as to why) I think what happened is they ran out of stickers early in their budget or something.
 
10 months of hype and all they did was slap a commodore sticker on one cybernet zpc, sell it to one person, then give him a job as their new chief technical officer.
 
So lets see how long it takes for the other 7 computers to dissapear from their website with no explanation or get cancelled as products.
 
Maybe they truly had or have good intentions, but their track record so far just sucks if you ask me. Having good ideas or plans dosn't mean anything if you can't deliver. Real companies don't start announcing new products before they have working prototypes.
 
Stop hyping and announcing NEW products, start delivering what you've already announced and hyped up.
 
Steven

Steven, once they start selling systems, what will you focus your complaints on?

[haywirepc]

Okay lets talk again when they actually have available for purchase all 7 of the computers on their current website, and the "NEW OS" available. Thats 8 new products they have to release. They better get busy, this could take years.
 
Steven

[Iggy]

Okay lets talk again when they actually have available for purchase all 7 of the computers on their current website, and the "NEW OS" available. Thats 8 new products they have to release. They better get busy, this could take years.
 
Steven

I'd settle for any of the models, outside of the Phoenix, being available for sale.

We'll have to thrash this topic over again if nothing shows up in Q1 2011.

And I'll agree with you that the "New OS" is over reaching for what is probably re-packaged emulation.

[haywirepc]

Most likely it will be ubuntu with an amiga theme and euae/vice.
Announcing a new AMIGA OS when your just doing that is part of my problem with them, much like slapping a sticker on an existing product and announcing your "NEW COMMODORE COMPUTERS".

A side note, I have enough linux experience to tell you that linux and amiga os are worlds apart. It may be fairly easy to get linux to look like amiga, but getting it to work anything like amiga os is entirely different.

Steven

[Franko]

You be hard pushed to find a bigger fan of the names Commodore & Amiga than me, but what does it matter that CommodoreUSA are using the these names. Anyone who has the smallest inkling of what the C64 or Amiga really is won't be fooled into thinking these machines are the real thing.

If some unsuspecting numptie comes along and buys one of these things then hey, thats tough luck for them if they think they are getting the real deal, they should have done their homework first before parting with their cash. All the views expressed here including mine won't make the slightest bit of difference to CommodoreUSA.

They are nothing more than us Amiga users passing the time with some idle chit chat very much like the Natami thread has become (do the folk who post and argue about which processor it should have used really think there going to affect the end product, I think not...

So lets remember whatever our feelings and views on CommodoreUSA are, at the end of the day nothing any of us say here will matter one little bit to them and whatever their business plan may be...

Carry on debating... it's all in the name of entertainment...

(PS:I've just nicked the Commodore logos from their site to use on my site as I thought they were quite well done and better than the one's I'd nicked from another site...