PPC accelerator poll

[Franko]

I was going to vote yes but that would mean logging in and that site's just too OS4.x biased to me (if I logged in I might upset a few of the nerds over there...

[Franko]

That is probably because  a1200 with phase5 accelerator can run "not so system friendly programs". With only PPC cpu a1200 can only run system friendly programs, because accelerators disables 68k cpu

I use a Blizzard060/PPC on my Amiga everyday and it certainly doesn't disable the 68k (otherwise I'd never even be able to boot up). Where'd you get that idea from... :confused:

[Franko]

@thread

2 quick things:

the background leading to the creation of the poll

The poll is a xoops poll (members only), as opposed to a normal thread poll where anyone can vote. It was designed that way as an information gathering instrument.

If one issue is the hesistancy to become a member solely for the purpose of registering a vote, I truly understand.
Maybe you could implement something similar here on amiga.org to help gather some responses.

#6

When it first came out I bought Classic OS4.0 to run on my Blizzard060/PPC and can only say what a total waste of money it was, there was no mention that you needed an RTG GFX card to make it usable and then Hyperion quickly dropped all support for it after only one update. :madashell:

This poll which is clearly linked to the release of Classic OS4.1 is kinda pointless in my opinion. I mean how many folk are going to be daft enough like me to pay nearly 500 quid on ebay to buy a BPPC, then try and buy a BVision (still haven't found one) to make Classic OS4.x any way at all useable. Thats assuming of course if you can find a BPPC or Bvision for sale in the first place.

I know Amigakit sell the Mediator boards, but in a thread I placed a few days ago asking if anyone uses the Mediator and what it could do, not a dicky bird...

Point is how many Amiga users are going to buy OS4.1 when it's going to cost them a small fortune to upgrade their Amigas just to run an OS that by past experience shows that you'll be left at the whim of Hyperion when they suddenly decide to drop support for it, not many I guess...

So what's the point in the poll, do you have some inside information about a new PPC board someone is planning for the Amiga, or is this just some more wishful thinking (and yes I did read the thread...)

(just noticed the thread were one lucky mug can bid on a BPPC , won't be me this time... but at least the Amiga community will have one more PPC user soon, even if he/she is a little poorer... )

[Franko]

Is there an accelerator?
Let's just say that the facts to date are that dealers would like that as a product option.

#6

Hmm... now that is interesting... go on spill the beans...

[Franko]

some of those 'nerds' are among us:nervous:

I'd noticed that... :sealed:

But then some over their are more nerdier than your average nerds. I mean there was a thread that ran for about 2 gizzillion pages, where the discussion was about how many pounds of thrust it would require to push an asteroid off a collision course with earth !!!

Still, at least it cured my insomnia... :roflmao:

(It's also a good advert for euthanasia... :roflmao: )

[Franko]

@Franko (sorry I must have missed your mediator post)

I'm running a Blizzard 060/PPC and Mediator setup and I must say its awesome!

I've got a Soundblaster 128 and a Voodoo 5 5500 hooked up to it.  With the update patch OS4 runs with this setup right out of the box in RTG.

I'm personally looking forward to OS4.1 as I'm sure there will be a lot more options for it software wise as OS4 is a little thin on the ground.

I also use Amigasys4AGA and Classic Workbench P96 along with my RTG setup and they both look and run great.

I also have a stock OS3.9 setup running off the Blizzard SCSI which is nice and fast plus WarpOS/Warp3D all setup and working with the Voodoo 5.

I'm glad I got my PPC, I know it cost me an arm and a leg but I feel part of a very exclusive club and surprisingly I'm not at all worried about using it, I switch the machine on and use it daily.

Steve.

Cheers for that info Steve...

I've always been curious about the mediator board and that's the kind of answers I was hoping for. Amigakit say they have a new version arriving soon so I reckon I'll go with that.

Finally looks like I'll have a good use for my trusty old BPPC board at last and be able to give up trying to find a BVision for it...

Cheers :drink:

Franko

[Franko]

I don't think that is correct. The so-called standard error is the square root of [p*(1-p)/n],
where p is the probability (0.38) and n is the sample size.  Using the standard error gives only a 68% confidence of the result.  For a 95% confidence, you use ~twice the standard error.  I have no idea how many have participated in the poll, but let's say it is 100 (for example).  Then the standard error is about 5%.  So at the 68% confidence level, that would be 38% +/- 5% and at the 95% confidence level, that would be 38% +/- 10%. BUT THE REAL PROBLEM IS you're assuming that the AW website is a good representation of Amiga users.  If it is tilted toward OS4 fans, then extrapolating these results to all Amiga users is not a good idea.

You wouldn't be one of those nice Amigaworld.net erm.. chappies I mentioned earlier... :roflmao:

[Franko]

@ Karlos

Not knocking them... just some could do with a sense of humor transplant...

Steve (the moderators) a good laugh though...

[Franko]

AmigaWorld.net is **NOTHING** like this place!

OK?

....

You've got that right, too many brain cells over there for my liking...

(and only one person speaks scottish, ye ken... )

[Franko]

Sorry... Point taken...

[Franko]

@Franko (sorry I must have missed your mediator post)

I'm running a Blizzard 060/PPC and Mediator setup and I must say its awesome!

I've got a Soundblaster 128 and a Voodoo 5 5500 hooked up to it.  With the update patch OS4 runs with this setup right out of the box in RTG.

I'm personally looking forward to OS4.1 as I'm sure there will be a lot more options for it software wise as OS4 is a little thin on the ground.

I also use Amigasys4AGA and Classic Workbench P96 along with my RTG setup and they both look and run great.

I also have a stock OS3.9 setup running off the Blizzard SCSI which is nice and fast plus WarpOS/Warp3D all setup and working with the Voodoo 5.

I'm glad I got my PPC, I know it cost me an arm and a leg but I feel part of a very exclusive club and surprisingly I'm not at all worried about using it, I switch the machine on and use it daily.

Steve.

Hi Steve, just a quick couple of questions if I may...

Can you still buy the Soundblaster & Voodoo cards in the shops/online
and what speed is your BPPC running at. Mines is 60Mhz/240Mhz...

Decided I'm going to go with the mediator set up for now while I wait and see whether the X1000 or Natami ever appear.

Cheers :drink:

Franko

[Franko]

I keep reading on this site that X chip can do this and Y chip can do that and how these amazing pieces of modern day manufacturing can run rings round the old M68K series.

Why then, hasn't anyone yet produced one of these holy grail chips that can completely emulate 100% such old technology as the M68K series and the Amigas custom chipset.

It's surely not beyond the scope of today's engineers/designers/ programers to create such a thing if these chips are as good as some folk claim them to be...