Very hard to understand

[kolla]

Using any amigoid system for anything networking is seriously challanging as all the software is pretty much locked to standards of early 1990ies, and this goes all the way from the drivers (SANA), the IP stacks, and up to client software. The main concern for software developers on amigoid systems the last 20 years are frames per second in games like Doom and Quake, true color icons and window decorations.

[kolla]

I found encryption in YAM very cumbersome, no S/MIME support, way outdated and limited SSL/TLS support (does it even do StartTLS?) and PGP/GnuPG on Amiga is very "alien" in any case. Not to mention the can of worms that is charsets and UTF8. Oops, now I did.

[kolla]

And wow - YAM still doesn't do IMAP?! I cannot even remember that, haha. No IMAP, no Sieve, no S/MIME, rudimentary PGP support... exactly what bells and whistles are left?

[kolla]

You can say that it is the general problem with Amigoid systems, especially OS4 and MorphOS - all focus is on "bells and whistles", all about "bling". They are totally lacking when it comes to fundamental technologies. Throwing more bitmaps and more FPS on it doesn't make the OSes more appealing to developers, modern core technologies are totally absent, and this has to be dealt with sooner rather than later. But, whatever, if gaining 2% higher transfer speeds on FTP over a sloppy half duplex 10Mbit connection is what ticks people off, by all means!

[kolla]

I used to love YAM but it doesnt do IMAP so I had to scrap it. I tried SimpleMail recently but found it unsatisfactory.

I think I should port Pine.

Pine was ported decades ago. Pine is dead, you should port Alpine. Oh wait, Alpine too is kinda dead, try re-Alpine. Pay attention, lol.

[kolla]

What will people do the day they no longer can have their amigoid systems online, because the IP stack is too old to support the current Internet? There are no people in the community with skills and know-how to update any of the IP stacks.

[kolla]

Plan9 is way more advanced than Linux, just saying

[kolla]

Matthey has a weird idea that about 10% of all raspberry pi sales would have been m68k if an equivalent had existed, because for some reason he believes 10% of the pi buyers really only want to run old AmigaOS on them. I find this idea ... crazy. I own a raspberry pi and I have not even bothered running anything amigoid on it, I just used it to play with RISCOS. When I get home, I want to boot strap it bigendian Linux and build AROS hosted with DOpus Magellan.

[kolla]

Unless a new m68k provides a proper MMU which makes it possible to also use modern operating systems, a Cheery Pi has extremely limited use, as there are already plenty of FPGA systems around that can run AmigaOS. Oh btw, AROS will be the most widely used amigoid system around anyways.

[kolla]

I think almost 100% of Pi buyers are people who buy it with intention of creating various cheap solutions based on Linux. Within certain alternative OS camps, some very few buyers get them to develop and test out their OSes, but these people are extremely few. Even fewer are people who explicitly buy it to actually run alternative OSes. Who would buy a Cherry Pi only capable of running AmigaOS? There are already quite a few options, what would Cherry Pi offer over MiST, that already covers two marked segments? The only way to atract more users is by having a darn fast and darn modern, full fledged m68k, capable of running Linux too. Nobody in the real world cares about Thor an his libs for AmigaOS - "most people" only care for Amiga in terms of playing old games, and Raspberry Pi does this fine already (as does a Nintendo Wii for that matter, or whatever game console of the last two generations) - Pretty much only "community people" are interested in fast m68k to run OS3.x and old applications, and even among us, a large percentage are already happy with UAE and do not see the point of a Cherry Pi.

[kolla]

How is UAE limiting ARexx etc?!!

[kolla]

Oh, you mean m68k apps running in UAE hosted on AROS cannot share resources with AROS? Well, it can certainly be achieved, if AROS gets the type of "inline" emulation that OS4 and MorphOS has.

[kolla]

Yeah maybe Olsen, but I don't think he is interested.