Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...

[haywirepc]

1) Lots of people have contributed free apps, games or contributed to amiga bounties. It does not give any of those people the right to hold amiga roms and workbench disks hostage forever.
 
2) Amiga forever is nice, but if the amiga grave robbers like cloanto didn't hold on to 20+ year old roms and disk sets, no one would need it.
 
3) Cloanto does not own anything. They have or had a liscence from the other amiga grave robbers to distribute the roms and disk sets. Of course they have a vested financial interest, which is why they are complaining about franko's site. They wish to continue to hold these things hostage for their own profit forever apparently.
 
4) Kudos to Franko for standing up to the amiga grave robbers. Make them prove ownership or tell them to golly off. Its about time someone did that. I think we should ALL host these files and let them try and stop everyone. They can't. The graverobbers have made enough money off the corpse of amiga. Lets take these things back.

[haywirepc]

Personally, I think cloanto has taken advantage of the whole situation for years and years too long. I think they LIKE the fact that amiga ip has changed hands so many times. This makes it very hard for anyone to prove that their claims to the roms, disk images and so forth are no longer valid.
 
Its obvious they do go to extremes to try and protect their own selfish financial interests. Franko's site is not the first one they made complaints about. They complain to service providers EVERYTIME someone posts a rom or disk image relating to amiga OS.
 
I think its kind of funny they report people for copyright infringement when they have no proof of ownership. Franko is lucky, many webspace providers would just force the user to take down any content someone complains about.
 
 
Open challenge to cloanto : Post legal proof in word document or pdf format that proves you have a right to sell the roms or disk sets.
 
They will never do that. The entity they made the original agreement with no longer even exists. They have no legal right to sell roms or disk sets, let alone stop someone else from doing so (or giving it away as free downloads)
 
A side note, I will be selling my new emulation dvd entitled "Fucking amiga fans forever". The set will include roms, disk images and pictures of the corvette I'm going to buy by robbing every amiga fan that wants to run amiga in emulation for 15+ years.
 
I will never provide anyone with proof I have the right to do so, but since it worked for cloanto, I should be fine.
 
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

"Fucking amiga fans forever" My new amiga emulation package will soon be available. I'll never provide proof I have the rights to sell roms and disk images. I will however, cry like a bitch when someone posts them on their website for free download. I'll threaten those people but still never provide proof I have the rights to sell anything, or prevent others from giving the stuff away.
 
POST your proof you own the rights. I challenged you before to do it.
 
If you actually have the rights to sell the roms and disk images, why not provide proof when asked? Because its bullshit, you made a deal with some version of amiga ages and ages (and ages) ago.
 
They don't even have the rights to sell their product anymore. They just don't want anyone to know that because they like having a strangehold on the roms. Anyone wanting to run amiga os in an emulator is forced to buy from them. Thats bullshit.
 
 
Amiga grave robbing fucking slobs. Get a job and leave amiga classic users alone you fucking selfish self righteous cowards who won't even post here in your own defense. COWARDS.
 
Come on man, no one owns any rights to anything amiga at this point. Its a fucking quagmire of bullshit at this point. Cloanto, let it go and let people have the fucking roms and disk images if they want without paying you for the NOTHING. Especially if they want to only use it on classic.
 
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

Originally Posted by psxphill
There isn't much to know about copyright. If you don't have a license then you can't distribute a copyright work. Just because you can't find someone to give you a license is no excuse.
Fuck that. If they can't be bothered to give so much as one token response to an honest inquiry about the status of their copyright, then I don't see why anybody should care about stepping on their toes.
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I definitely agree. Come on cloanto, chime in and defend yourself.
Provide proof of why your acting like utter assholes. They have no reason other than pure GREED.
 
How much money are you going to make off the corpse before you just let people have free access to the roms or disk images?
 
I'm going to go find 3000 free hosting sites and post the roms and disk images everywhere.
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

SCREWING amiga fans forever...
 
Come on thats funny.
 
And by the way, personal paint blows. I'd rather be forced to use microsoft windows paint than that trainwreck.
 
I suppose I do just wonder, how long will the amiga community allow cloanto to have this stranglehold on roms and 3.1 disks?
 
I like thier explanation on their own website, where they basically say "We can't prove you can't post roms on websites, but we'll bitch about it anyway."
 
And I think it says alot that although cloanto or its representatives won't publicly post here in this thread to defend their probably illegal actions taken against franko, they will sign up a shill account. -=Moderated=- cowards.
 
Steven