Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?

[Piru]

The original question asked by orb85750 was :-
'Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?'

Well, if it still is unclear to anyone: No, I am not buying one of these things.

Besides I already have a dual 2.5GHz G5 system to play with. I paid 300 eur for it.

[Piru]

Come on. This is not fair and not true. OWB is getting updated every 2 month or so.

Didn't you get the memo? Joerg quit on OWB.

And Timberwolf will arrive before X1000 hits the shelves

Considering both Friedens are busy with OS4 itself I find that very hard to believe. Unless of course if X1000 release is postponed for a couple of years?

Workbench is a great file manager and neither mac nor PC offer anything better. You might be ignoring that most people on Windows use a norton commander clone?

That's just ridiculous. Workbench is stuck to WB2 era basically. Things have moved on elsewhere.

And Preferences are OK if you ignore the skinning and MUI-crap.

I disagree.

[Piru]

If that was true then the xbox360 would have a Quad Core Intel CPU and cost the same as a 2007 PC capable of running games @ 60FPS in 1920x1080...clearly they didn't and it doesn't

Microsoft chose PowerPC because they could get full control of the chip (and for instance embed security features inside it... making it much harder to crack the console). That was not possible with intel or AMD. Original Xbox was cracked almost instantly and it meant major losses due to piracy.

There is no substitute for genius design and clued up entrepreneurs fronting the cash.

Sure Commodore was a massive company in the mid 80s but Amiga was off the shelf tech bought in. Ditto if the makers of X1000 had a realistic business plan they only had to do 2 things.

1. Secure the services of IBM as an advisor on how to use the shit hot Xenon 3.2Ghz PPC compatible CPU

2. Hire some tech geniuses to understand roughly how the Xbox 360 motherboard works.

So in essence they would be doing what Commodore did, take a shit hot chipset and make a damned fine state of the art PC using those components that blew EVERYTHING out of the water in 1985/86.

You're forgetting something: You can't just hack something like this (computer HW business introducing a new platform) up from our garage anymore. It takes capital, lots of it. Back in the day it was possible to (literally!) start your business from a garage... I argue that this isn't possible anymore.

How would you go on and sell this idea to VCs? New game console? New desktop? What would bring them the profits for their investment?

And btw, game consoles are cheap because they're sold at a loss. The income comes from the game sales.

[Piru]

100% wrong, I know of 3 folk personally, whom in the past 2 and a half years have started up their own business from a garage/home and who are continuing to go from strength to strength today.

It's all down to providing a service or product that enough people want. I have to admit that I was wrong with one of these people when she first told me her idea, I said that not enough folk would want that to make it viable. Well she proved me wrong and in less than 2 years she now employs 2 other people and is making a quite comfortable living from it.

Don't understand why you would believe Piru that such a feat is not possible in this day and age... :confused:

Uh. I obviously was talking in relation to computer HW business, specifically creating totally new platform. Say what Apple and other companies did in the silicon valley.

But sure, I'll edit the post to avoid any further confusion. Apparently it was somehow possible to misinterpret it.

[Piru]

The more things change the more they stay the same, my comment was merely if someone was serious about creating a true next gen OS4 platform then the only viable option is to use the 3.2Ghz Xenon CPU and to 'investigate' how Microsoft harness the power, the full price of which is still under $250 which is significantly cheaper than i7 solutions in x86-64 world. Creating the GLUE logic to make an ATI GPU and Xenon and RAM work is not costly or difficult and like I said the option is always there to hire IBM consultants to help as and when required.

It helps to be a multibillion corporation to do these things. Garage company such as a-eon will not be able to do it I'm afraid. It certainly won't be in the 6 figures, more like 8.

I still think you're dismissing the fact that if you need to somehow recoup your investment in the R&D. Unless if you see hundred of thousands of the units with nice profit margin you're not going to do it. How are you going to convince the VCs to invest in your business if you don't have some guaranteed way to generate profit?

[Piru]

Some socialism has never killed many.





Politics should probably be discused only on CH?