68040 library?

[KatManDEW]

What's the skinny on the 68040.library, and variants that I've seen? What are they for?

I had to delete the 68040 library to get my A1200 to boot from HD with an Apollo 1240 accelerator. It's less compatable with WHDLoad games than my A2000 with GVP 040, and I use the 68040.library with it...

[KatManDEW]

mike- wrote:
http://phase5.a1k.org/
try the one in there.

That didn't work. The archive contained these files.

68040.library (a small file)
68040new.library
68040old.library
68060.library

I copied those file as-is to my libs folder, and it wouldn't boot.

I deleted the small 68040.library and renamed 68040new.library to 68040library, and it wouldn't boot.

What am I doing wrong?

[KatManDEW]

Piru wrote:
And anyway, these libs are for phase5 accelerators, I'm not so sure they work with Apollo ones.

That's what I wondered... I found those (same?) 68040 files when researching the Apollo 68040, and found them on a combination Apollo 88040/86060 disk, but they also didn't work.

Seems to me that if I have a 68040, I should be using a 68040.library (like I am with the 040 in my A2000). But I've seen reference to the fact that the 68040.libray(s) are a ball game in and of themselves...

[KatManDEW]

I haven't tried Thor's MMU yet, but the OS 3.9 library didin't work. She locks up on boot.

I just got the 3.1 roms today and it doesn't work with them installed either.

[KatManDEW]

Thanks for the 68040.library description. That makes sense.

I think the lack of one is causing me and unknown amount of problems. After I installed the 3.1 ROM's today, DOpus won't run anymore :-?

And I can't boot from a OS 3.9 Emergency Disk floppy modified to install 3.9 from a CF card - she just locks up...

Most WHDLoad games wouldn't work even with the 3.0 ROM's. My 1200 has been less compatable with WHDLoad than my A2000 with OS 3.9...

[KatManDEW]

Methuselas wrote:
Apollo Accelerators are pieces of sh!t. 'Nuff said.

That's bad news, for me anyway :boohoo:

Are they still a POS if upgraded to an 060?

[KatManDEW]

CSixx wrote:
They are hardly a POS.
I've had mine for years without issue. All my WHDLoad games work perfectly.

For WHDLoad, i do have to add the "nocache" tooltype to the game icon before they work.

Does your Amiga boot without a 68040.library at all?

Yea, it boots without a 68040 library. But I've tried several versions of the 68040 library, and it hangs when booting with all of them.

I've got a real clean installation of OS 3.1 because I just got the A1200 recently.

Are you using the stock Commodore 68040 library?

I'll try the nocache option, but I think I may be wasting my time because I seem to have a weird situation by not being able to use a 68040.library.

[KatManDEW]

-D- wrote:

Methuselas wrote:
Apollo Accelerators are pieces of sh!t. 'Nuff said.

Says someone who obviously never owned one.

@KatManDew

Are you *sure* you're using the correct (larger size) library? Have you tried Thor's? (Those work beautiful on every accelerator I own, btw.) Phase5 libraries also work fine here, but mine is an '060 card.

I tried Thor's 68040.library only, without intalling the whole package. No go. I tried the Phase5 libraries. I tried every 68040 library I can find. No go.

Something weird is going on because ever since I installed the 3.1 ROM's today, Directory Opus wouldn't run. I've installed the Apollo 1240 and the 3.1 ROM's since I installed OS 3.1 and Opus, so I blew away the hard drive and started from scratch. DOpus still wouldn't run. Somewhere along the way I booted with the CPU cache disabled, and DOpus runs with the CPU caches disabled. I didn't have to do that to run DOpus with the 3.0 ROM's.

Me thinks a usable 68040 library might be in order...

The walls in my house are all covered with blood from me beating my head on them :-o

[KatManDEW]

Check that - DOpus will not even run with the CPU cache disabled anymore.

[KatManDEW]

countzero wrote:
are you using a flash disk or normal HDD ?

does dopus run without the apollo ?

I'm using a normal 2.5 inch HDD.

DOpus ran fine with the Apollo until I installed the 3.1 ROM's yesterday.

[KatManDEW]

matthey wrote:
See if you have a motherboard jumper to raise the ROM speed. I remember some reports of 3.1 ROMs that were not as fast as old ones and caused problems.

I just tried again, and got it to boot with one of the 68040 libraries from an APollo install disk that I got at Amiga Resource (there are two 68040 libs on that disk, both of which I tried before).

But DOpus still won't work.. I get the Suspend - Reboot message. error #8000000B

[KatManDEW]

matthey wrote:
See if you have a motherboard jumper to raise the ROM speed. I remember some reports of 3.1 ROMs that were not as fast as old ones and caused problems.

I don't see a jumper on my motherboard.

[KatManDEW]

Matt_H wrote:
Are you using a recent DOpus, as in 4.16 or 4.17? The older, commercial releases in the 4.11 neighborhood are somewhat crashy on high-end hardware.

It's version 4.16. It worked before I installed the 3.1 ROM's.

I can't find a version 4.17 on Aminet.

[KatManDEW]

Many thanks for all the info!

Although I figured something was wrong because DOpus wouldn't run, I went for broke and installed OS 3.9, and lo and behold, DOpus runs after 3.9 was installed! It's beyond me...

I'm using the stoak A1200 power supply, and that could indeed be the problem. I'm also gonna take a look see with SnoopDOS.

But for right now I'm gonna take a break and clean up all the blood from where I've been beating my head against the wall the past few days :-D

Thanks again!

[KatManDEW]

Since my Apollo 1240 won't fit in the stock A1200 case, I'm going to put it in a tower, so I will have a better PSU in the tower.

I'm guessing that installing OS 3.9 gave me a different version of setpatch, which allowed DOpus to run.