potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP

[ottomobiehl]

@ lou

I really love your idea and I think that it would be a cool if it were implemented.  Also, I think I know what you are trying to say.  If OS4 "could" get ported over to piece of hardware like the GC then we would have a "cheap" alternative to the A1 motherboard.  (Personally I think AROS ported to the GC would make more sense anyway)


I have no doubt that you have some knowledge about this stuff too.

But...

If I have learned anything by being a member of Amiga.org it is that members like Bloodline, Wacoon, Billt and a plethora of others really, really know what they are talking about as far as the technical underlayings of computers and there OS's go.

I think I would have asked more about the feasability of a project like OS4 (or AROS) on the GC and taken advantage of the vast knowledge of the members of Amiga.org who know such things rather than get in a heated argument about it.

That being said, I still think Amiga.org needs the dreamers like you to spout off ideas and maybe we could stumble on to something that is eventually worth doing because I think the survival of the Amiga as we know and love is going to come from the community and not the companies in charge.

Anyway, I hope you can see what I'm trying to say.

Thanks (in advance) for listening with an open mind.

Dan

[ottomobiehl]

Finally someone who actually understands...

:-) Yea, but my dream would be for some one with the money, business sense and extreme love from the Amiga to come along and
1) Buy the Amiga IP.
2) Build a small,cheap but efficient G3 or G4 based motherboard (hey I love the processor).
3) get rid of the "dongle" aspect of OS4.
4) Market the hell out of it.

[ottomobiehl]

Because Dan's post just put me in a good mood, I'm gonna be a bit more positive in this post.

 :-D Just glad to know I do my bit around here.

[ottomobiehl]

lou_dias wrote:
Even I know it won't happen but neither was OS4 or A1.  It was an overall expression of desire from the community that made something happen.

The big problem here is a hardware design was determined and then an OS was designed around it instead of the other way around.  If the leg work on the OS had been done first, the target hardware would be more current and we might actually want to pay a pretty penny for it.

Don't give up on ideas like these though.  Eventually somebody is going to have a crazy idea that would be so simple that it might work.  That is my hope anyway or rather I'm counting on it. :evilgrin:

By the way, I own a GC also.  Been hooked on the Zelda games and the Mario games since the late 80's, which has required me to buy Nintendo's systems since then. :banana:

[ottomobiehl]

Can't wait for the new Zelda on GC! I'm almost done with Resident Evil 4 - amazing game!

I've seen the trailers for the new Zelda game and they remind me of the Lord of the Ring movies, which is good in my opinion.  Can't wait for it to come out.

Haven't gotten a chance to play Resident Evil 4 on the GC though.  I do love the survival horrer bit though.

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lou_dias wrote:
Resident Evil 4 is THE GAME to own on the Gamecube.  It shows the true power of the Gamecube.  It has to be played to be believed.  Anyone who plays it would clearly see why this platform has the power to host the Amiga OS.

I'll be sure to play it on your recomendation.  :-)

Forgot to mention that Metroid Prime (both of them) was really good.  They did a good job of transitioning from a 2D tile game to a 3D one.  Kudos there.

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Too bad it was released the same week as HALO 2...

I can say with great pride that I have never played HALO 2.  For that matter, I've never played the original HALO.  I would never buy an Xbox.  I don't know how Microsoft spent all of that R&D money to come up with basically an underpowered PC.

[ottomobiehl]

Oh yey, something to look forward to...NOT!

 :roflmao:

or maybe OSX on an the PC. :-)

Microsoft's dev kits for XBOX 360 are PPC Macs.

You know, I had heard this and I thought that the irony was incredible.  I'm sure that they are using OSX for the OS on those Dev macs too.

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mdma wrote:

Nope, they use Windows on a PPC NT kernel.

Figures, I thought they had given up on the non-x86 NT kernal development.

coldfish wrote:

Irony? Or is IBM multicore PPC tech just fast, versatile and cheap?

Good point.  :-)

Anyone remember when Atari LYNX games were developed using Amigas?

Wow!  You know, I hadn't realised that.  If the Amiga had been properly marketed with stuff like this it wouldn't have died off so quickly.  Go figure.

By the way coldfish, I love your avatar.  Father Ted, in my opinion, is a brilliant show.  To bad Dermot Morgan had to pass away.

[ottomobiehl]

@adolescent

It's a shame that you haven't played 2 of the best 1st person shooters of all time.

As Maurice Chavez on Vice City Public Radio says, "It's all a matter of perception."  ;-)

I have no doubt that they are probably fun games and I would most likely be hooked if I played them but to me the best FPS game that I've played is the old LucasArts game Outlaws.  I still love that game.  The other FPS games I've been playing lately are Battlefield 1942 and the Medal of Honor series.  I usually don't play FPS on consoles as the controllers usually drive me mad.  I prefer the ol' keyboard and mouse approach.

edit: Ahhhh, now I've gone and seen that they have Halo for the PC and Mac.  I guess I'm going to have to try them now.  Shucks.

The Xbox hardware is perfectly suitable for games. It's just as powerful as the other consoles of it's generation. For reference, the GCN's Gekko is roughly the equivilent power of a P3-700MHz. So, you could say "I don't know how Nintendo spent all of that R&D money to come up with basically an underpowered Mac.". I would add that Nintendo spends just as much money yet lost their #2 slot for home consoles to Microsoft. If anything, the PS2 is more dated and less powerful, but still is #1 and has the best game catalog.

You have some very good points and I won't deny you that.  My R&D comment was probably not very fair.  The only game that has come out on the Xbox that I've really been interested in is Fable so one game is not enough to make me plunk down some hard earned cash on a console.  I also have some issues with Microsoft's business practices but you could also say the same of Sony or Nintendo so I won't go into that either.  I do, however, have some loyalty to Nintendo and Sony due to some of the franchises that they have and maybe the Xbox will move ahead in the respect.

The truth be told, when I heard that the Xbox2 was going to be PowerPC based it Piqued my interest so who knows what the future may hold.

@Coldfish

Thanks, you've got to love Father Jack, he's a nasty, grimey old bast'!

"Drink, Fek, Girls!"  :lol: or Dougal, "Ted! I don't want to drive the milk float no more!"

It was weird when Dermot died, I hope God forgave all the Catholic jokes...

No kidding.  I wonder what purgatory is like this time of year?  :-D

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Zorro wrote:

spirantho wrote:

And incidentally, the PS2 is very like the Amiga

Well, if AmigaOS 4 will land on a PS2, I, for one, will be however a loooot happy !  :-D

Do they still make the linux kit for the PS2?  I bet you could run/develop AROS on top of it.  Would be a neat little project.

[ottomobiehl]

There are too many +'s to own Revolution over the other sytems. The only real reason to own some other system for the next-gen is to play some exclusive titles. As far as first party games, Nintendo has them all beat hands down.

I will be getting one as I have stated earlier, like the Zelda and Mario games ... oh yea, Metroid too.
 :-)