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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #119 on: April 01, 2005, 05:23:57 PM »
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Even Windows 95 booted with 16MiB of RAM.


Actually you COULD Run W95 on a machine with 8 MiB of RAM (minimum spec was 16, but I think 8 was possible as well).

On a sidenote. Some guys have stripped down w95 < 5 MiB total, and w98 < 8-9 MiB total (lacking everything, but still runnable).


Even an encumbering hulk like Windows 2000 runs on 32 MiB of RAM (installed it myself on a pII 333, slow as hell).

(Before anyone asks, Mi = MegaBinary = (2^10)^2 = 1048576; Tired of erroneous usage of Mega. (IEEE standard) )

Oh and lou_dias, I know you feel "shot down". The idea is great, but from my reading this forum for some time I gather that these people have been burnt to many times to jump on this train before something is proven. So do a thourough analysis and come back here then.

Despite the fact that Billt has a business to run he was right initially, if you want something done you had better do it yourself.

(Oh and Me having a HD-less a500 stashed away does not make me an Amiga-guy, so file me under PC-looser (PC as in w2k@Amd64))
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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #120 on: April 02, 2005, 02:17:10 AM »
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Because Dan's post just put me in a good mood, I'm gonna be a bit more positive in this post.


 :-D Just glad to know I do my bit around here.
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #121 on: April 02, 2005, 04:15:22 AM »
Even I know it won't happen but neither was OS4 or A1.  It was an overall expression of desire from the community that made something happen.

The big problem here is a hardware design was determined and then an OS was designed around it instead of the other way around.  If the leg work on the OS had been done first, the target hardware would be more current and we might actually want to pay a pretty penny for it.
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #122 on: April 02, 2005, 07:44:03 AM »
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lou_dias wrote:
Even I know it won't happen but neither was OS4 or A1.  It was an overall expression of desire from the community that made something happen.

The big problem here is a hardware design was determined and then an OS was designed around it instead of the other way around.  If the leg work on the OS had been done first, the target hardware would be more current and we might actually want to pay a pretty penny for it.


Don't give up on ideas like these though.  Eventually somebody is going to have a crazy idea that would be so simple that it might work.  That is my hope anyway or rather I'm counting on it. :evilgrin:

By the way, I own a GC also.  Been hooked on the Zelda games and the Mario games since the late 80's, which has required me to buy Nintendo's systems since then. :banana:
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #123 on: April 03, 2005, 02:58:36 AM »
Off-topic:  Can't wait for the new Zelda on GC!  I'm almost done with Resident Evil 4 - amazing game!
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #124 on: April 03, 2005, 08:32:12 AM »
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Can't wait for the new Zelda on GC! I'm almost done with Resident Evil 4 - amazing game!


I've seen the trailers for the new Zelda game and they remind me of the Lord of the Ring movies, which is good in my opinion.  Can't wait for it to come out.

Haven't gotten a chance to play Resident Evil 4 on the GC though.  I do love the survival horrer bit though.
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #125 on: April 03, 2005, 08:55:55 PM »
Resident Evil 4 is THE GAME to own on the Gamecube.  It shows the true power of the Gamecube.  It has to be played to be believed.  Anyone who plays it would clearly see why this platform has the power to host the Amiga OS.
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #126 on: April 03, 2005, 10:52:52 PM »
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lou_dias wrote:
Resident Evil 4 is THE GAME to own on the Gamecube.  It shows the true power of the Gamecube.  It has to be played to be believed.  Anyone who plays it would clearly see why this platform has the power to host the Amiga OS.


I'll be sure to play it on your recomendation.  :-)

Forgot to mention that Metroid Prime (both of them) was really good.  They did a good job of transitioning from a 2D tile game to a 3D one.  Kudos there.
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #127 on: April 04, 2005, 09:28:42 PM »
Yes, Metroid Prime 2 was actually tied or sole runner-up to Game Of The Year (which was Half-Life 2) across all platforms for 2004 in various printed and online magazines.  Who would have 'thunk' it?  Too bad it was released the same week as HALO 2...
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #128 on: April 05, 2005, 01:43:55 AM »
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Too bad it was released the same week as HALO 2...


I can say with great pride that I have never played HALO 2.  For that matter, I've never played the original HALO.  I would never buy an Xbox.  I don't know how Microsoft spent all of that R&D money to come up with basically an underpowered PC.
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #129 on: April 05, 2005, 02:23:36 AM »
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Too bad it was released the same week as HALO 2...


I can say with great pride that I have never played HALO 2.  For that matter, I've never played the original HALO.  I would never buy an Xbox.  I don't know how Microsoft spent all of that R&D money to come up with basically an underpowered PC.


Only to switch to a completely new platform.  Microsoft's dev kits for XBOX 360 are PPC Macs.  How sad for them.  Who knows, maybe we'll see a PPC Windows again...  Oh yey, something to look forward to...NOT!
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #130 on: April 05, 2005, 02:37:56 AM »
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Oh yey, something to look forward to...NOT!


 :roflmao:

or maybe OSX on an the PC. :-)

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Microsoft's dev kits for XBOX 360 are PPC Macs.


You know, I had heard this and I thought that the irony was incredible.  I'm sure that they are using OSX for the OS on those Dev macs too.
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #131 on: April 05, 2005, 11:27:54 AM »
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Oh yey, something to look forward to...NOT!


 :roflmao:

or maybe OSX on an the PC. :-)

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Microsoft's dev kits for XBOX 360 are PPC Macs.


You know, I had heard this and I thought that the irony was incredible.  I'm sure that they are using OSX for the OS on those Dev macs too.


Given Apple's policy, they don't have much of a choice.
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #132 on: April 05, 2005, 11:39:56 AM »
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Oh yey, something to look forward to...NOT!


 :roflmao:

or maybe OSX on an the PC. :-)

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Microsoft's dev kits for XBOX 360 are PPC Macs.


You know, I had heard this and I thought that the irony was incredible.  I'm sure that they are using OSX for the OS on those Dev macs too.


Nope, they use Windows on a PPC NT kernel.
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #133 on: April 05, 2005, 02:09:44 PM »
You guys must have a lot of free time, all those quotes & double quotes...  Phew!

It makes me wonder how much clout Bungee, (being M$'s golden child) have over the Xbox2/360 development devision? (considering they originally come from an Apple background)...

Irony?  Or is IBM multicore PPC tech just fast, versatile and cheap?

Anyone remember when Atari LYNX games were developed using Amigas?

I just like games, regardless of the hardware.

 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #134 from previous page: April 05, 2005, 07:12:09 PM »
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Nope, they use Windows on a PPC NT kernel.


Figures, I thought they had given up on the non-x86 NT kernal development.

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Irony? Or is IBM multicore PPC tech just fast, versatile and cheap?


Good point.  :-)

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Anyone remember when Atari LYNX games were developed using Amigas?


Wow!  You know, I hadn't realised that.  If the Amiga had been properly marketed with stuff like this it wouldn't have died off so quickly.  Go figure.

By the way coldfish, I love your avatar.  Father Ted, in my opinion, is a brilliant show.  To bad Dermot Morgan had to pass away.