Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?

[ferrellsl]

I'm calling BS on this.  If this was real, then why take the time to white out any readable text and darken the image?  I've seen more believable images of Big Foot.  And these accelerators need to be stuffed into 1.5 meter long boxes?

[ferrellsl]

The boxes appear to be for the connectors and not the accelerators; We've ordered DIN41612 connectors from DigiKey that came packaged in similar boxes

I live in AZ and have some beach-front property that I'll sell you too.

[ferrellsl]

I'm unsure what you're trying to imply here, are you trying to say that if I believe they're connectors, you have a bridge to sell me?

The boxes are indeed for connectors, and what more, the pin pitch and style (based on the part number on the box) match those of the A1200 expansion slot. They're a part series that appear to be made by Adamtec

Here is a PDF datasheet for the part printed on the box (prefix guesssed): http://www.admatec.ch/download.php?file=kel/half_pitch_connectors_8800_series/8806_8807_8816_8817_series.pdf

Compare that to the high resolution dimensioned photo of the A1200 expansion slot on Kipper2k's site: http://kipper2k.com/a1200_expansion_slot.jpg


I haven't had a chance to compare them completely as I'm on break at work, but there may be something to this.

AZ is a landlocked desert.  No oceans here, hence no beach-front properties either.

A picture of some accelerators from circa 1990 sitting in front of some cardboard boxes with the labels blanked out and some old schematics and pics from Kipper's site does not equal an available product.

So you want us to assume that this "new" Phase 5 somehow found a truckload of NOS 680x0 or PPC CPUs and is going to make a production run of new accelerators for a market of maybe 400 users at best?  Even if this is true, the final price will be absolutely ridiculously high.  And why bother when I can buy a Vampire for a reasonable price that will run circles around any stock 680x0 CPU and compete quite nicely with some PPC CPUs?  ACK Controls played this same game by announcing a PPC accelerator back around 2007 with their PowerVixxen.  Didn't happen then with a CPU that WAS in production, and it won't happen now with CPUs that have long been out of production unless Phase 5 bribes Jens out of his stash of CPUs.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-46974.html

[ferrellsl]

I'm not assuming they have any 680x0 or ppc cpu's, they may be selling bare boards for all I know.

Or the videos of the component placement could be a smokescreen and they have an fpga/arm/atom board on the way.

That's an even worse scenario.  If Phase 5 is releasing bare boards as a product, how many Amiga users actually have the skills and equipment needed to finish their boards let alone have the components and CPUs to get them running?

[ferrellsl]

As has already been mentioned 9837593475 times, there's no Vampire accelerators available for A1200's or A4000's, which is the target market for these new cards (plus the 2060's, which would be welcome considering how many A2000's still show up on ebay).

I never mentioned the A1200 or A4000, you did.  I'm waiting for the standalone Vampire anyway.  It will run rings around any Phase 5 product, real or imagined.

Go ahead a drool over a shady Facebook page filled with images from 1991.  This bad joke will end just as the one created by ACK Controls in 2007 did.

[ferrellsl]

The images aren't darkened on Facebook.

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Only on Amiga.org do people cream their pants over pics of cardboard boxes with 25 year old accelerators parked in front of them....

OK, so the pics are lighter on Facebook.  They still have the text blocked out and could have been pulled from any dust bin or dumpster.  And if this new Phase 5 was legit, then why not actually have a real web site with pricing and other relevant info instead of just a dead-end homepage with a logo and an address?  Why all the secrecy?

I've seen more than my fair share of scams, failed projects, and twisted jokes on this site to know another one when I see it....ACK Controls, ARIX, etc.....now this "new" Phase 5.

I hope I'm wrong but the past makes me very cynical.

[ferrellsl]

If you want to see their web site done sooner, why not volunteer your services to help create it?  :laughing:

I have my own legitimate web site with real and available products to maintain at  http://lidarwidgets.com

And the new Phase 5 says they've been in business since April of this year but can't get past a dead-end homepage?  If that's the best they can do in 7 months, then they need more help than I can give them anyway.