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Re: Any REAL news from the OS4-tour ?
« on: June 08, 2003, 08:06:59 PM »
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And yes I know someone will come around and tell me that I ain't worth an answer (hi Hans-Jörg), but that doesn't change the fact that my questions are valid


They are, but unless you learn to ask them in a decent way, I won't bother. Just look at your posting. You simply cannot ask something in a polite or non-flamable fashion. It's always full of "flame on", or "useless screenshots".

And you wonder why I refuse to answer?

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Re: Any REAL news from the OS4-tour ?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2003, 08:11:34 PM »
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Yes, have been criticly about OS4 in the past year, and yes I have never shyed away from telling what I think


There is a difference between stating your opinion, and flaming. Most of your posts contain at least something like "flame on" or an arrogant "lol", giving the general impression of "I could do better".

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And about the orginal questions:
I don't see how they could be seen as asked in an unfriendly way
or should I have reworded them to AO-style


Again an insult. I am wondering some times if you do that on purpose or if you just don't notice how you behave.

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Re: Any REAL news from the OS4-tour ?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2003, 08:16:37 PM »
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And *ALL OF THEM HAVE PUBLIC BETAS RELEASED MONTHS IF NOT YEARS AHEAD OF TIME.*


Seems your mind is already made up. Why bother, then?
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Re: Any REAL news from the OS4-tour ?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2003, 08:32:41 PM »
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How much is still 68k, and how much is PPC ?


Kernel and a few key libraries are PowerPC native. Some stuff is still 68k, but will be replaced in the near future. Preparations for the move to PPC have been made since the work started out, so it will be rather painless. Those modules we ported so far didn't pose any serious problems.

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What did run ? 68k SW ? WOS ? OS4-native ?


To tell you the truth, I don't know what they've been showing. Jürgen did make the presentation, and I was not there.

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Is P96 allready intregrated in in graphics/layers, or still patching the orginal libs ?


I don't understand the point. You will probably tell me that ramlib isn't properly integrated into the system because it patches Exec?

No, P96 patches the original libs. There's nothing wrong with that. What is interesting to the user is exclusively when the graphics system is available, that is, if I can view the early startup menu on a graphics card screen or not. The answer is yes.

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And how will that affect the AGA-compabilty ?


Not at all. AGA software works just fine.

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What HW was used ? SCSI (on the CS-PPC) ?


Again, I don't know how the show machines where equipped. We do have a native driver for CS SCSI, though, if that is the question.

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Where new drivers used (emu or native ?), or
ist it still the Phase5-device running in emu ?


See above.  The flashrom on the CSPPC isn't executed, and no third-party drivers from Phase5 are used.

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What GFX-card ? Zorro,PCI or CV-PPC ? And what others are supported right now ?


All of them. CSPPC's got a new driver written from scratch. With SNAP, we'll also be able to support the latest GeForce (2D of course), all Radeons, and a whole bunch of other cards :-)
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Re: Any REAL news from the OS4-tour ?
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2003, 08:35:30 PM »
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I see lots of Hyperion people commenting but mainly useless BS targeted to person who has been corrected about a dozen times already.


Useless BS?

Now, that was clearly a flame, so by your own high standards, go stand in the corner.

And people wonder why I grow tried of dealing with kiddies...

But thanks. I just tried to answer, but apparently, this is all useless. Go try to get your answers from someone who cares.
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Re: Any REAL news from the OS4-tour ?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2003, 12:20:47 AM »
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You did waste your and other people's time with these "you didn't ask nicely, I won't answer" types of messages


Kronos directly picked me for that - blame it on him.

If you think reading my (or Thomas) posts is a waste of time, there is the easy solution to look the other way.
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Re: Any REAL news from the OS4-tour ?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2003, 12:25:14 AM »
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Is Hyperion going to be actively involved (ie someone standing next to one of the machines) in any of the demos?


Thomas and me will be at the Augsburg show next week, though we'll probably only "be there", answering a few questions (if people ask nicely)
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2003, 12:29:18 AM »
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while amigaos3 code is targetted for amigas and contains some asm.


Let's rather say "used to contain". There is little 68k assembler left in the current source tree.
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Re: Any REAL news from the OS4-tour ?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2003, 11:20:02 AM »
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How much of AROS's source did Hyperion use in order to assist their development of AOS4?


Simple one word answer: "Zero".
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Re: Any REAL news from the OS4-tour ?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2003, 11:25:18 AM »
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he certainly succeeded in getting some of the worst of you out.


Believe me when I say that you haven't yet seen the worst of me.

It is not only here. Kronos does this on every forum.

To give him credit though, his questons *are* valid. Something that you cannot say from others, especially on german forums. However, like I said, if he chooses to ask them in an offensive way, I choose to ignore them.  
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Re: Any REAL news from the OS4-tour ?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2003, 11:42:14 AM »
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put words in my mouth


I didn't. I only said that people had been claiming that our emulation concept wouldn't work. You said this was wrong. I never implied that it was you that said something like this.  But ANN is full of these.

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And yes I still think that "can easily be recompiled" is NOT an answer to the question of how much is PPC-native, and thats
why I put that in.


Then why did you ask? When I say that recompiling for PPC is easy, you (and others) go and deny what I say. Why do you ask questions if you don't believe the answers?
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