Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.

[KennyR]

This is a great day for the Amiga.

[KennyR]

For all those defending Amiga Inc: what have you got to thank them for? A DE disaster, an OS delayed more every month, a licencing scheme seemingly designed to squeeze as much money out of the community as possible while chasing off all its users, lies, prevarication, delaying tactics, con tactics and most of the time just deadening silence. Do yourselves a favour, drop Amiga Inc like the useless outfit they are. Amiga Inc is NOT Amiga.

Second point, the conspiracy theories some of you are coming out with are plain silly. What what Genesi gain by destroying OS4 even if they wanted to? Huge unpopularity, that's all - people who want to buy OS4 wouldn't run and buy Pegasos in droves instead, would they??

I wouldn't care who finally broke Amiga Inc. Actually I'd prefer it not to be Genesi, because then it will poison public opinion of them even more than all the FUD. But someone had to take a sledghammer to that huge millstone that is AInc and I'm glad this is yet the heaviest blow.

[KennyR]

Gopal wrote:
I thank Amiga Inc for making the decision to take AmigaOS from 68k to PPC.

Then you are thanking the wrong people. Phase5 made the decision to switch to PPC. Amiga Inc was busy promising new OS4 and OS5 stuff that was fantasy and most of which still is. And the DE which they decided to do instead had really very little to do with the Amiga.

"lies, prevarication, delaying tactics, con tactics"

Lies: "OS4 is the next version of the Amiga OS, it's a total rewrite of the operating system. It's brand new from the ground up, rewritten for the PPC hardware. And it's bloody fast. It's currently in beta testing at 20 external sites, and it's just about ready to go ? in three more weeks. The components are ready, we just have to plug them together and go." - Bill McEwen.

That and his infamous "30,000 AmigaDE developers" quote. I have loads of these. Shall I go on?

Prevarication and delaying tactics: The Ask Fleecy Q&A, the only Q&A in the world that doesn't actually manage to definitively answer anything.

Con tactics: The great t-shirts scam: taking $50 and not delivering either coupons or t-shirts. These will never be delivered because Amiga Inc does not have the money to do so, even before this lawsuit.

[KennyR]

Jose wrote:
@KennyR
"..while chasing off all its users"

LOL! Sorry couldn't help it. Where did that happend?

About the part where they announced 800 dollar motherboards. And of course, by starting OS4 for real so damn late and alienating all of the people who already had code and the skills.

By the way, FFS how come Genesi doesn't win anything? They are direct competitors!

Wrong.

[KennyR]

Gopal wrote:
That´s not links or facts, thats writing quotations. They might be fake for all I know. And they might be taken out of their context.

Click.

That's not taken out of context, or a rushed announcement. That's a blantant, obvious lie. McEwen did make rather a lot of these claims, before he went silent.

Amigans may be despressed and think the future is bleak because of this court outcome. But believe me, I'm far more depressed that people still run to support Amiga Inc even when they don't deserve such support. I just can't see any reasoning for except that they have the Amiga name. And that, to me, really, really makes the Amiga community futureless.

[KennyR]

Paul wrote:
My first post was right... With the Genesi/Morph/Peg gang "the name" _IS_ really useless. So glad to hear it! In that case, Genesi can just forget about this little "victory" in the courtroom and go about their business of making multi platform hardware and software which runs an Amiga emulator, and not bother putting the Amiga name on anything they sell.

Yeah yeah, I've heard this bull since day one, and hearing it repeated ad nauseam doesn't make it any truer or more logical.

For a start, classic Amiga compatibility on OS4 will also be done through emulation. So your argument that MOS is just an emulator and not and Amiga for that reason falls flat on its face.

Secondly, Amiga Inc are just company with a name to slap around too. They have no relation to Commodore or the original Amiga. How you could say this for AmigaONE (which I assume you mean by a "real Amiga", correct me if I'm wrong) but not for a legal Pegasos Amiga clone I will never know. Logic error overload.

If what is today MorphOS had been the real AmigaOS, none of you would really know any different. It would be woo, yay, great, PCs are crap, Amigas rule again. But now that MorphOS has been identified as the enemy, bias and prejudice are the only strength Amiga Inc and its licenced A1/OS4 seem to have any more. And the more they use it to fend off their growing problems, the less logical it seems to become.

[KennyR]

IonDeluxe wrote:
If Genesi wanted the Amga name they could have bought it.

Not for the price that "Amga" Inc asked.

Hang on, Mr Bill Buck tried, failed and droveo drove phase 5 bankrupt in the [process!

If you could win prizes for being clueless to this whole situation, you'd come away with top. Phase 5 and Bill Buck? :lol: You really need to get your facts sorted!

Of course this means nothing to you as BBRV is your personal hero, and I suspect your secrect unrequited love intrest, so just ignore this post as I would not want to shatter the fragile illusion you call reality.

All those comments on Ann and MooBunny about all the blind Fleecy lovers finally getting to you, IonDeluxe? Out for a bit of badly focused payback? Or is it just that you're having a really, really bad day because your beloved side suffered a huge defeat? Well, whatever, you're not a very effective troll. I recommend you find an anonymous proxy and make pseudo-sexual remarks about anyone who has a Pegasos and Bill Buck on ANN to cool off a bit. It's more representational of your sophistication level. Or relieve yourself in other ways, who knows. Whatever floats your boat.

[KennyR]

restore2003 wrote:
when you insult hyperion and amiga inc. you also insult a majority of the users here

I wouldn't say the majority. Not now.

But why? Why are people so offended of criticism of AInc? What have they done recently to earn such support? What have they done in the last two years?