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BANNED FROM HOME FOR SMACKING SON
« on: December 09, 2004, 10:41:43 PM »
from the Daily Mirror:

A LOVING father was barred from his home and parted from his family for six months after he smacked his three-year-old son in public.

The astonishing curb was imposed in a bail order while the 41-year-old dad-of-two waited 20 weeks to be tried for common assault.

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Re: BANNED FROM HOME FOR SMACKING SON
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2004, 02:56:22 AM »
@Xray

The problem is is that this sort of attitude is growing (within the young population), afterall who in their right mind would say they're being abused if they're not? As kids get wise to this ever more quickly, expect to see similar things happening more often, and over more and more rediculous things. I mean looking from the police side of things, how can they really make an accurate judgement call on such an issue... As an offshoot of this, genuine cases may be dropped because police feel the kid is trying to pull a fast one.

For the article itself I say much the same thing, this sort of thing will increase as the PC brigade gains ever more momentum.. And theres little we can do about it, you me and I'd imagine everyone else on this board would say that this was totally over the top by the authorities, but this will become more common.

All because a frightened parent wanted to get across that running around on or around roads equated to pain.

Another thing I wonder is how many children will end up in state run facilities to theirs and the population as a whole's detriment.

I forsee large lawsuits in the making. And by large, I mean government breaking lawsuits.

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Re: BANNED FROM HOME FOR SMACKING SON
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2004, 02:59:55 PM »
@ Dan

Welcome back  :lol:

I must admit that Social Services pretty much sum up in one department my beef with the Civil service at large and for the reasons you describe.

Shame, because there are an awful lot of good people who are in the service that really do care but are stiffled into insignificance by the powers that be.

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Re: BANNED FROM HOME FOR SMACKING SON
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2004, 02:27:25 AM »
I know where MDMA is comming from, and the key to that is the part where he said "When he was angry" and this part is of absolute importance, by all means chastise your child, physically if necesary. But do not resort to smacking *whilst angry*.

As for PowerAmiga, You kids teacher is talking bollox, and your kids need a good clip. I watched very very closely what was actually decided on this issue, which btw I don't think comes into force next year, but basically its just a rehash of the previous law, a quick slap is ok, beating them liberally around the head with a rubber mallet isn't. Though I suspect that the latter is in your current crisis a damned tempting option, well, for the teacher at any road.
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Re: BANNED FROM HOME FOR SMACKING SON
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2004, 04:27:22 AM »
I do try to be very scrupulous in my english, though its easier when its other peoples ;-)

I love the language, there are just so many levels and so many styles of it to be explored. To someone like myself, it's a paradise.

If my spelling (and grammar) was better, I'd consider myself a pedant :-D
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Re: BANNED FROM HOME FOR SMACKING SON
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2004, 06:21:56 PM »
Wow!

If I'd known that this was such a powerful issue, I'd have put up something like this sooner! Of all the threads I have ever created, this on has recieved the most replies by far!

Fascinating discussion too :-)
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Re: BANNED FROM HOME FOR SMACKING SON
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2004, 03:34:00 PM »
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Dan wrote:


Do you mean because some parents will just carry on  and even might take it further prevent discovery? :-?


No, just that what was previously acceptable in terms of chastisement would now be illegal. The bar, so to speek, has been lowered.

Which is why when it was said it takes social change, not legislation for good reason. The above reason in fact.

Social change ultamately is the true power in a society. Law only punishes those who cross the line. pressure by society is much better in getting people to stop what they are doing then the threat of jail time.

Conversly, or perversly depending on your point of view, it  could be that law becomes such a burden to the person with regards what he is legally allowed to do to chastise his or her child, that the parent says: "Sod it, theres nothing I can do without getting banged up, so the state can deal with the brat, if the state wants to be nannying, then who am I to deny it that role".

And tbh I can see this comming from some people who have been harshly dealt with, or the fear therof. Society has at least a little more discretion in matters such as these.
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Re: BANNED FROM HOME FOR SMACKING SON
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2004, 07:09:33 AM »
Absolutely ridiculous and yet, so totally in line with many such incidents by police officers in both the USA and the UK, minor things (or in the case you described, non issues) get the absolute works thrown at them, whilst major crime and criminals get light to pathetic sentences.

I could quote a dozen such instances I've read about just in the local newspaper over the past 6 months, but I figure you get the picture.
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