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Re: New AmigaOS???
« on: November 16, 2008, 01:05:19 PM »
If this new OS is on linux based kernel, then it is just another Linux distro, like the thousand others. It won't have anything to do with AmigaOS, but on the other side, it can bring some developers to it from the Linux community. For me AmigaOS 4.1 goes well and stands alone from the other AmigaOS splits/clones/immitations/whatever, and with the new hardware, people bored with AROS and who want to tinker with AmigaOS, can join with SAM board, or even second hand AmigaOnes.

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Re: New AmigaOS???
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2008, 05:21:02 PM »
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Go tell me that after you read drhirudo's post on AWN.  It's been explained multiple times this is not another Linux Distro but he keeps repeating it over and over again.

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You are mistaking me with someone else. Personally I don't care about AROS/Anubis because I don't have the hardware to run it, and the PCs I have touch with seem to run fine with Windows XP. I run some Linux Distros on them be it from USB stick or even bootable CD/DVD, but they don't offer anything more than Windows XP, and they are developed for years. How is Anubis going to impress the people? Will it have backward AmigaOS compatibility?

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Re: New AmigaOS???
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 12:17:19 PM »
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What I ask to those people is just to stop pretending anyone else should agree with them: time for classic Amiga has finished, like it happened for C64, ...

Wait, are you saying that C64 would be "dead"?

Well sometimes it seems that C64 scene is more alive than Amiga scene imho :-)

There are even new hardware products, such as MMC Replay and 1541 Ultimate.

But the Amiga wins on the hardware front - there is Deneb, Indivision, Minimig, CatWeasel, FastATA, Lyra, SubWay, Delfina, Buddha. Well no new accelerator boards for years, but where I can buy SuperCPU? They have C-One, but the Amiga have AmigaOne, SAM, Pegasos, Efika. On the software front if you sum the releases on AmigaOS 3.x, AmigaOS 4.x, MorphOS and AROS, they are much more than the C64 released. So if you are retro computer hobbyist, the Amiga is more interesting, and more money demanding too. Because to have all these controllers and hardware is much more than buying RRNet and MMCReplay and attach them to a router in your home network.

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Re: New AmigaOS???
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 01:14:50 PM »
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But the Amiga wins on the hardware front - there is Deneb, Indivision, Minimig, CatWeasel, FastATA, Lyra, SubWay, Delfina, Buddha.


Well, USB and PCI on the C64 ain't going to happen anyways, so why bother.  There's lots of new hardware being produced for the C64 as well.  The latest that caught my attention was the Ultimate 1541.  AFAIK, we don't have anything like that in production on the Amiga.

Floppy emulator for Amigas was development long time ago: picture right on Amiga.org, but the I prefer WHDLoad+Hard Drive (CF card) combination. May be because of WHDLoad, the floppy emulators are not popular on the Amiga. Simply because of no demand at all.
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Well no new accelerator boards for years, but where I can buy SuperCPU?

Well, how about right here?  It's a few months long waiting list, but it's in production.  I know, I was in touch with them a little while ago.

Hey, good to know. I may consider buying one, after I have satisfactory Amiga setups I will buy RRNet, RetroReplay, MMC+ for the C64, but only after I have the SAM with big SATA hard drive and the best graphics card it can accept. Of course in a cool case. And then fixing the old A1200 with some additional cards, and the the A4000 with Deneb and Flash card. Oh well, may be the C64 will not get any attention at all.
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They have C-One, but the Amiga have AmigaOne, SAM, Pegasos, Efika.


Why list Pegasos and Efika?  You can't run AOS on any of those?  The Peg and A1 is long dead anyways..

Some people claim that they are Amiga relatives (Amiga). Why else they would mentioned on Amiga.org in Amiga context. Probably the same way the C-One is relative to the C64. New hardware, emulating the old. I prefer the AmigaOne and SAM though.
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On the software front if you sum the releases on AmigaOS 3.x, AmigaOS 4.x, MorphOS and AROS, they are much more than the C64 released.

Did you just make that up, or do you have some real numbers to prove it?  $10 says you hardly pay any attention to the C64 scene.

I see the activity on once a great C64 news portal and it is not as active as used to be. CSDB with all the graphics don't impress me at all. On the other hand Aminet, OS4Depot and scene.org receive new Amiga productions, even some of these repositories on daily basis. And I visit more the Speccy sites, where it have very strong scene in ex USSR (mainly Russia now) which releases interesting stuff, but you need to know Russian on some of the more active sites.
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So if you are retro computer hobbyist, the Amiga is more interesting, and more money demanding too. Because to have all these controllers and hardware is much more than buying RRNet and MMCReplay and attach them to a router in your home network.


Uh.. I... yeah, whatever.

Yeah, I know I can connect only the RRNet to the router, next to my Amigas. With the contiki I will browse the net, or play some games. The C64 is good, only if I can get a proper picture with the Scart cable I have. But my love is the Amiga.

I am not attacking the Commie. Don't get me wrong. I like retro computers, as much as I like the Oric, the Sinclair and the Apple II. But saying it have more activity than the Amiga is if nothing else, a stupid claim. The Amiga is the most active retro/hobbies/alternative computer platform to date, and I am active participant in many retro communities, you can trust me. That's why I stand behind my words that the Amiga (in the classic and AmigaOS 4.x form) is the most active retro/hobbyist/alternative platform, now and probably in the near future with the SAM hardware now available in the shops.

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Re: New AmigaOS???
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 03:17:51 PM »
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My Mobile Phone has a more powerful CPU, More powerful GFX (including 3D), better Audio and MANY MANY MANY more apps an games... Oh yeah and it has an always on Broadband connection... it cost £150...

Which would you buy? The Crappy A1200, 15 years out of date... or the Mobile Phone that I have?



Did you type all this from your Mobile Phone? Do you enjoy typing long post on Mobile Phone? Did you enjoy surfing on Mobile Phone? Do you play Chaos Engine and Sensible Soccer on your mobile phone?
I know I don't. And for Amiga.org browse I prefer my crappy A1200 over your mobile phone. Mobile Phone is good for talking, but not good for surfing. Got the point?