Midgets Go to War: Genesi sues Amiga Inc.

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Well, supposedly they sue for a "breech of contract" (which is of course not a "fact" unless the a court says so).

The only known contract concerns AmigaDE (probably the only one that does exist).

So ... theyre suing because a product does not exist for a platform that does not exist payed for with nothing? I dont know what theyre up to.

ps: bb is making a fool of himself on ann (again).

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@Alkemyst
And where´s the Amiga now?Ho ho ho...  :-P
BTW: Sega still is one of the most important video-game developers of the world.

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Threatening to post someones private phone number is ... laughable and lower than low.

And what did catohagen write in that thread that could be viewn as offending???

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You mean you don't recall Amiga Inc's "AMNESTY UNTIL SEPTEMBER ONE" posting(s)?

Well, that's not quite slander now is it.
Someone stole Amiga's property, and they want it back.
That's not mud slinging.

I liked the speech, and I'm only sorry that Amiga Inc. didn't go though with it.

As far as MorphOS not using Amiga Code, well, that's kinda rediculous.

It's plain to see that Amiga code was used.
They can say that they didn't use it if they wish, but I know better than that.

Genesi, or whomever, might have written a lot of things, but I can tell you now that Amiga OS code is in there.

I'm actually hoping for a countersuit, since ole' Mr. Buck has pushed it all this far.

[System]

Well, the fact of the matter is this.

If Amiga Inc and Hyperion go...
I go.

Frodo, bbrv, and the clown have infiltrated the community.

Preachers of MorphOS and Pegasos, with Bill Buck in the background silently minipulating all the forums.

To them it seems to be working.
To me it also seems to be working.

But you know what?
Amiga Inc and Hyperion have the only solution that I personally would consider valid for Amiga.

That Solution is AmigaOne, OS4, and the dongle.

Under the supervision of Genesi, it will continue to go like it has for about 10 years now.
To hell in a handbasket.

Amiga Inc wanted to secure the Amiga OS and make sure that developers recieved payment for thier work.
Amiga Inc wanted to put a virtual end to Amiga piracy.
Amiga Inc wants the Amiga name to grow into something that it hasn't been in many years.

Genesi wants to keep everything the same.
Open to pirates.
No specifications to meet for programmers who build for amiga.
On and On and On....

Same old crap!

If this community lets Bill Buck have his way, then this community is commiting suicide.
Amiga will be dead within 5 years.

Haage and Partner will return in full strength.
People like Mr. Myers will get off the wagon and go on to better things.

Germany will once again be building patched up hardware as expensive add ons.
And Amiga will die.

As much as a lot of people here hate Bill McEwen for whatever reason, he is the only hope along with Hyperion for hope in the future.

Agree...
Disagree...
It really doesn't matter.

If Bill Buck takes control, America, along with many other countries will never see a true amiga again.

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It was not a personal attack against you Frodo.
Please don't take it as such.

That's just the way it's working out, if that makes sense.

I've always enjoyed reading your posts and statements...  Kronos, and bbrv also.

But im starting to see a particular pattern in what is going on between the three of you.
Call it paranoid behavior if you wish, but I reckon that's just the way I am.

But anyway, you three are not the main issue.

The main issue is who's hands Amiga will fall into.
And I see the Genesi side as a grave danger.

Didn't mean to offend you.
Sorry.

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But aparently it doesn't have anything of its own to make it suceed without ripping the official AmigaOS completely apart.

this legal action  has nothing to do with the AOS.... Hyperion has the rights to make OS4 irreguardless of what happend to A.inc....why do people care so much for A.inc? what did they do for you?

Hyperion makes an OS I respect them... Eyetech makes? I aknowledge them.... but A.inc?

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Poster: Alkemyst Date: 2003/2/4 23:11:33

@MisterBrisby
Dont try & turn what you said around.
I was pointing out that its silly to use a term of a failed platform to premote another.

You said it i did not.

That slogan is from Mega Drive (aka Genesis) times and the Mega Drive was quite a success.
Can´t remember about the Dreamcast-slogans but anyhow...  :-D

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@amigaguy

Guess you've never heard of Lindows.  Microsoft lost against them on very much the case you describe

http://lindows.com/

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Check this out

Note the date of the patent...
Any comments or remarks?

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All though the thread, if I am skimming with any comprehension, there seem to be lots of users confused by the difference between actually using source code, and simply supplying compatible APIs by clean-room design and developed with available documentation (of which there is plenty, as Downix points out).

Here's what I don't understand.
Maybe someone can help me here.

How can someone build a compatible API without getting information from the origional source code?

And if you build api's that act exactly like the origional enviornment, then you would have to write it the same way, although you would extend it further.

And the available documentation that you speak of also would have to be source code.

Correct?

So no matter how you say it, it always comes back to the origional source code.

If you're going to emulate the Amiga OS and extend it, you're gonna have to do it with the origional source code.

Correct?

What other documentation would there be that would even start to help that is not source code?

Doesn't make sense to me.