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Subliminal ain't it not?
« on: July 02, 2004, 05:30:20 AM »
Greetings,

One time, I have encountered some volumes of Self-improvement cassette tapes, with the sounnds of the ocean at the end that contain subliminal messages. According to the author, the messages contained positive message/suggestion within while listening to these tapes overtime.

Back In the late 70's. Some Rock/Metal, heck, even religious music has also imbedded subliminal messges contained "Blasphemed" or "Glorifying" suggestion on/against God or Jesus. Majority of which are imbedded in most music.

So my question: Does these subliminal messages really affects one's phyche or Influence them in a BIG??? way?

Or this is all a crap, cheap way/stunt to make you buy the record? :lol:

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Re: Subliminal ain't it not?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2004, 05:32:51 AM »
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Greetings,

One time, I have encountered some volumes of Self-improvement cassette tapes, with the sounnds of the ocean at the end that contain subliminal messages. According to the author, the messages contained positive message/suggestion within while listening to these tapes overtime.

Back In the late 70's. Some Rock/Metal, heck, even religious music has also imbedded subliminal messges contained "Blasphemed" or "Glorifying" suggestion on/against God or Jesus. Majority of which are imbedded in most music.

So my question: Does these subliminal messages really affects one's phyche or Influence them in a BIG??? way?

Or this is all a crap, cheap way/stunt to make you buy the record? :lol:

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it's all crap.

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Re: Subliminal ain't it not?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2004, 06:04:48 AM »
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So my question: Does these subliminal messages really affects one's phyche or Influence them in a BIG??? way?
It's crap. And I'll explain why...


There was a study done some years ago on so called 'subliminal tapes'

The many participants in the study were divided into 4 groups.

Each of the four groups were given commercialy available tapes to listen to.

One group recieved (from memory) a 'lose weight' tape.

Group two recieved a 'no smoking' tape.

Group three recieved the same 'lose weight' tape as group one, except it had the 'no smoking' label.

Group four recieved the 'no smoking' tape with the 'lose weight' label.

Each person in the groups listened to their tapes for a few months, and each person was questioned as to it's effectiveness.

The 'lose weight' people mostly believed that they acctually felt that they lost weight.

Most of the 'no smoking' tape people believed that they craved cigerettes less.

Most of the people with the 'weight loss' tapes that were relabled as 'no smoking' tapes, felt that they had reduced desire for cigerettes.

Most of the people with 'no smoking' tapes with 'weight loss' labels felt that they had a reduced appetite.

As you can see, the plecebo effect is at work here. Nobody had really lost that much weight, or stopped smokeing.


Visual 'sublimal messages' have also proven not to work.
 

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Re: Subliminal ain't it not?
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2004, 08:14:29 AM »
One of these days I'll conduct my own expierements.

send me your money and your women

When I get around to it anyway.

vote republican

Just to see for myself.

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One of these days anyway.

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Re: Subliminal ain't it not?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2004, 08:14:35 AM »
Double post

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Re: Subliminal ain't it not?
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2004, 10:20:05 AM »
Greetings,

Hmmm, I thought so too.

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It is quite crappy.

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Re: Subliminal ain't it not?
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2004, 12:16:56 PM »
Well the visual equivalent of these messages does work apparently. You know, like when a Coca Cola advert appears on a single celluloid frame of a movie or something.

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Re: Subliminal ain't it not?
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2004, 12:58:58 PM »
Greetings,

Once I tried backmasking Queens' 'Another one bites the dust'. When you play the chorus backwards I seem so say '...smoke.. marijuana...' or something like that.

I never smoke any pot! Didn't affect me but the tune seems to play in your head over and over again.

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Re: Subliminal ain't it not?
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2004, 01:15:34 PM »
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Once I tried backmasking Queens' 'Another one bites the dust'. When you play the chorus backwards I seem so say '...smoke.. marijuana...' or something like that.


Bizarre :lol:
 

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Re: Subliminal ain't it not?
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2004, 01:17:36 PM »
@iamaboringperson

Subliminal messaging doesn't work if it goes completely against someone's nature, or what they'd usually do. It can't stop people smoking or eating. Or raise an army of zombies to take over the world.

But what it can do, if used subtly, is make people feel thirsty, needing a smoke, or whatever by playing on emotions that already exist. Its not so much subliminal as feeling like a pee when you see running water.
 

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Re: Subliminal ain't it not?
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2004, 05:14:59 PM »
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Well the visual equivalent of these messages does work apparently. You know, like when a Coca Cola advert appears on a single celluloid frame of a movie or something.


Yes, I was going to mention this. It is quite possible to see things without being aware of seeing it. A lot of processing goes into vision before the info makes it to consciousness and  a lot of editing goes on too (like how you don't see the blur when you shift your gaze).

There is even a condition known as blind-sight in which an individual looses the ability to "see" consciously but can navigate around objects in a room without touching them.
 

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Re: Subliminal ain't it not?
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2004, 12:18:32 AM »
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Once I tried backmasking Queens' 'Another one bites the dust'. When you play the chorus backwards I seem so say '...smoke.. marijuana...' or something like that.


There was a thread on here a week or two back that linked to a site with these supposed messages on songs..

Have you tried it on the chorus from Britney`s "Hit me..", she sings "Sleep with me , I`m not too young"   :-o  :-o

Well, the sample on that site did it anyway, no way of telling if they`d buggered about with it, and I definatly don`t have that song to try it myself..
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Re: Subliminal ain't it not?
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2004, 02:13:39 AM »
Hum,
have you ever noticed that if you listen to any speech made by emperor Bush through/on a tape recorder that it doesnt make any sence at all...
And if you cue-fastforward the tape that it sounds like an alien?

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Re: Subliminal ain't it not?
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2004, 01:28:45 AM »
I do believe in subliminal messages, just not those types.