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Offline Jope

Re: Please!
« Reply #14 from previous page: June 30, 2004, 05:13:05 PM »
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Wayne wrote:
Oh Geez.  "Term program".  There's something I had thankfully resigned to an 80's dumpster memory, along with zip memory and dot matrix printers.

Hmm, don't say that to people working in the networking business.. Most active network devices are configured initially through an RS-232 port using a terminal program.

Also, many servers (sun, ibm, hp) are still initially configured through an RS-232 port via a terminal / terminal program. (no graphics card / keyboard in a unix server usually)

After you have everything running, you can telnet / ssh in, of course.. Until they stop at the firmware prompt, because your boot disk is missing, or something happened and it couldn't go multiuser. Time to plug your cable into the RS-232 port.. Of course most people use terminal servers for this, telnettable boxes that have many rs-232 ports that connect to the console ports of the servers.

That brings to mind: ssh and telnet-style programs are terminal programs, if they open their own window to display what happens on the remote machine (like is the case if you're running something other than a Unix flavour).. So is xterm, dtterm, gterm, kterm, and what have you..

The Windows command prompt emulates an ANSI terminal to some extent too, like does the Amiga's CON window. :-)

Whoops! Suddenly terminal programs are all around you, even though not all of them talk to a serial port..

They're far from dead, my friend. :-D
 

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Re: Please!
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2004, 06:55:36 PM »
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Whoops! Suddenly terminal programs are all around you, even though not all of them talk to a serial port..

They're far from dead, my friend. :-D


Well said. :-)
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Re: Please!
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2004, 06:59:30 PM »
Well, yes, it is that easy. It's not incredibly fast or anything, although, you can use a fairly high speed for the port, since you do not suffer from the shortcomings of an actual modem.

I think that JRCom and NComm are both really nice terminal applications for the Amiga. Unfortunately, they are commercial and I doubt that you are going to be able to find *legal* versions out there to use.

Aminet has a bunch of ones you can use though, I just did a search for "terminal" and got almost a whole page of terminal applications.

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Re: Please!
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2004, 08:39:46 PM »
Hi there!

Well I don't know why everyone is talking about AIAB... Amiga In A Box
is an Amiga emulation program for the PC!

The best way to connect an Amiga and a PC together is the rare Siamese
System which used serial or ethernet links and put Workbench onto the
Windows '95 screen.

Today you might want to try something more available... I think Samba
is an Amiga program for networking. And if know your stuff you can
just get a PCMCIA ethernet card and link the PC directly to the Amiga
via a TCP/IP program such as Genesis/Miami.

I wondered at first why Wayne was warning us about piracy, because
every Amiga owner has obviously the right to Workbench for free. But
then I realised that there are a lot of UAE users out there...
vultures ready to peck at the Amiga goodness!

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Re: Please!
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2004, 09:35:30 PM »
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I wondered at first why Wayne was warning us about piracy
It had to do with "Is there a free workbench 3.0 on the Internet" (or something to that effect).  As a new AO user and obviously new Amiga user, I wanted to make sure that the user was aware of every implication of his question.  It also never hurts to "bump" the Posting guidelines to the front of everyone's thoughts.
 

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Re: Please!
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2004, 10:30:01 PM »
What's the problem guys? Floppy disks aren't sold anymore? That's the easiest solution imo. :-D

Why to hassle around with cables and stuff?

Format a 720k PC floppy on miggy, don't forget to block the part where the hole is that indicates it's a 1.4MB or 720k disk, or else PC can't read it. Then copy over your zipped WB disk and Amiga ROM, unpack them on PC and voila! :-)

Only tools you need here is CrossDOS or FAT95 installed for formatting a PC floppy and zip.exe. FAT95 and zip can be found on aminet freely... :-)
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Re: Please!
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2004, 03:06:40 PM »
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CaptainHIT wrote:
What's the problem guys? Floppy disks aren't sold anymore? That's the easiest solution imo. :-D

Why to hassle around with cables and stuff?



Well, in my defense, I am an engineer and a former Unix admin, so, it is in my nature to do everything the hard way. I would have thought of just using "sneaker-ware", but, the twinkie-eating, D&D playing, Cli driven geek inside me immediately took over and decided that a complex setup involving cables and hard-to-find software was the only route worth traveling. Try to keep in mind that I would write a 50 line shell script to save typing one command in an xterm ... ;-)

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Re: Please!
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2004, 05:16:02 PM »
@CaptainHit

That solution sucks with big files... even with ADF's.
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