AOL (Amiga On Linux)

[Rodney]

We're all very aware that MacOSX can run on top of linux thanks to a great peice of software called MacOnLinux.

What would really be great is if you could use your OS4, and MacOSX (if i was to get an AmigaOne, its because i could run both) both at the same time on top of linux.

Would this not be a good idea?

Sure i guess this would mean you could run AmigaOS4 on pegasos or Mac or anyother peice of hardware which runs MacOnLinux, but how many of you would love to give OSX a try and also use AmigaOS at the same time?

[T_Bone]

But this would go against the whole "We need to protect the users from themselves, and keep them from being temped to run other OSes" mentality of Hyperion.

[iamaboringperson]

@Rodney
well can i already run AmigaOS on linux! using UAE!
but even if it could run natively, you would still have all the overhead of x-windows & window managers etc... so IMO it wouldnt be anywhere near as good!
it would be usefull, but not as good as AmigaOS on its own
since i use linux anyway, if i can only have one machine/monitor on i would like that option though
 :-)

[Argo]

I wouldn't mind MOA (Mac on Amiga). What your suggesting wouldn't work unless you or someone else violated the copy protection in AmigaOS 4.

[WalkernyRanger]

Don't AmigaOnes already run Linux?  So they would allow you to run OS4, Linux, and Mac on Linux.

[iamaboringperson]

WalkernyRanger wrote:
Don't AmigaOnes already run Linux?  So they would allow you to run OS4, Linux, and Mac on Linux.

thats after a reboot!
if your currently running linux & want to switch to AmigaOS 4 you must shutdown (i.e. type init 0) and restart the machine and choose 'AmigaOS' somehow!
 :-)

[Belial6]

Correct, Amiga Inc. being an IP terrorist would use the DMCA to instill the fear of financial ruin and imprisonment on anyone trying to run the software they legally bought on any system they didn't get a cut of.  

At this rate, soon those recipies on the back of your chocolate chips bag that says to use X brand of flower will start enforcing the brand of flower through DMCA terror tactics.

[Seehund]

Sure i guess this would mean you could run AmigaOS4 on pegasos or Mac or anyother peice of hardware which runs MacOnLinux, but how many of you would love to give OSX a try and also use AmigaOS at the same time?

With AmigaOS4+ not actually being available for sale separately from hardware, legal and payed for AmigaOS emulation is dead, together with legal native use on "unlicensed" hardware.

Separate OS copies will only be sold for CS/BlizzPPC Amigas, so I suppose "AOL" would have to emulate such an Amiga.
 At least there could be some income from OS sales there.

[trgse]

why?

it is already possible (sort of)
this is just another dumbass question like

why can't OS4 run on X86
... or ...
why can't my amithlon run OS4

buy yourself a amigaone too.

[xeron]

Rodney wrote:

What would really be great is if you could use your OS4, and MacOSX (if i was to get an AmigaOne, its because i could run both) both at the same time on top of linux.

No, thats totally backward! I want to use AmigaOS all the time, and occasionally fire up MacOS or Linux to do something I can't on the Amiga. What I want is something like vmware, or MOL, for AmigaOS, so I can boot MacOS or Linux in a window on workbench.

[Crumb]

Yes, that's something I'd like:
MacOnAmiga and LinuxOnAmiga ;-)
A virtual machine like vmware would be cool

[Rogue]

T_Bone wrote:
But this would go against the whole "We need to protect the users from themselves, and keep them from being temped to run other OSes" mentality of Hyperion.

Your comment clearly indicates that a protection of some sort is of utmost importance.

For the record, nothing in AmigaOS 4 will keep you from running Linux or MacOS or what have you on the same machine. If you claim that, you are wrong.

For the record, all protection methods are aimed against piracy. However, I don't see any overwhelming reason to try and get OS 4 to run on anything else but supported hardware.

I would prefer if you could use common sense before posting.

[Rogue]

Seehund, it might be a good idea to leave worrying about sales to those people that acutally do the work.

Your post contradicts itself completely. The first paragraph says that you cannot get it separately from hardware, while the second says you can buy it for CSPPC's.

*Any* OS is targeted at a specifc set of hardware. Even Linux. You may succeed in porting it to another platform, but don't pretend that this will happen automatically.

[Rogue]

@Rodney
This might or might not work, depending on how someone hacks MOL to get the Cyberstorm PPC version working.

However, this does violate the AmigaOS 4 licence as much as it violates the OS X licence to do the same on MOL. From the Apple Software Licence, paragraph 2:
"This licence allows you to install and use the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled or Apple-licenced computer at a time".

[Rodney]

Sorry if it sounded like a dumb question guys, but what im trying to say is, i dont worship the Amiga, infact, im only midly interested in it. I one of those people who see a good thing in any OS be it Windows with its support, MacOS with its gui and some nice Apps, linux with its stability and configurability, BeOS with its OO and AmigaOS with its resourse friendly responsive OS.

I wasnt thinking about how "cool" it would be to illegaly run AmigaOS4 on foreign hardware, but how cool it would be to get my AmigaOne and be able to run linux, MacOSX and AmigaOS4 all at the same time, on the one machine. I know this would be breaking the MacOSX licence, i wasnt sure that this would be breaking the AOS4 licence, seeing though it'll still be running on an AmigaOne. But i guess it does? so there goes that idea!

Maybe it'll be good to get a port of MacOnLin for the Amiga then? MacOnAmi? That also sounds like a great idea.

Anyway,  thanx!