New 3d versions of popular 2d Amiga games?

[BigBenAussie]

I was wondering the other day what kind of games might be appropriate for the next gen Amiga platforms. The classics excelled in 2d games and seeing as the Amiga is a retro machine I figure remakes of the games that made it great presented in 3d would be fantasic, now that the new base platform will at least have the capability of an XBox.

The community obviously doesn't have the resources of the biggies in games industry and its likely that future Amiga games would be the realm of bedroom coders, who would hopefully be compensated adequately by the community in terms of sales. (We really can't have the rampant piracy of the past. It would ruin future software endeavours.) Anyway these retro games presented in 3d don't need the magnitude of content or production values of the console games and can be as limited in scope as their 2d counterparts, whilst focusing on gameplay, which should always be the aim.

Finally, to the reason for the post....
I was wondering if the Amiga platform has several Amiga only characters(similar to Sega's Sonic or Nintendo's Mario) or famous games that could be leveraged to produce desireable 3d versions.

What famous Amiga games of yester-year would you like to see updated to 3d?
Are there copyright issues?

This thread isn't about whether 2d is better than 3d and I would hate for it to degenerate into that.

[gizz72]

Greetings,

What a cool idea!:idea: Hmmm, for 2d games classic to 3d games in mind. Alien Breed 3d 1 and 2. First person shooters. Surely took advantege of those expanded miggy's. And They are availble.
Now the other classics like Turrican trilogy(1st person and network capable as well) but that would be too expensive to develope on A1 or Pegs.

A mascot of Giana Sisters would be cool. 8-) or A real live person! :-o At the same time a 3d version of the game would be very appealing to classic and newbies alike.

I'm sure those few steps are important to revive an already stagnant market share. Err.. very meager market share. Time can only tell.(crossed fingers 3x) :-)

Cheers!

Gizz

[Naeem]

They'd make great PS2 Games :-)

[Naeem]

Or even XBOX games :-)

[TiPp-X]

SYNDICATE lets take this fantastic game to the next lvl.

Reg:TiPp-X

[PMC]

Not sure about Turrican, what made it great was the fact it was 2d....  Anyway, it would still look cool in 3d, with deathmatch and all the funky weapons and powerups etc.  There's just a few too many FPS games out there (Unreal etc) already.

Imagine though an FPS deathmatch set in the "Aliens" inspired levels of Turrican II, or even atop a futuristic train a la Turrican 3?  

[sdesros]

There was a Turrican 3D: http://www.nemmelheim.de/turrican/other/turrican3d/ .  Unfortunately, it was canned.

[FAC]

PMC wrote:
Not sure about Turrican, what made it great was the fact it was 2d....  Anyway, it would still look cool in 3d, with deathmatch and all the funky weapons and powerups etc.  There's just a few too many FPS games out there (Unreal etc) already.

Imagine though an FPS deathmatch set in the "Aliens" inspired levels of Turrican II, or even atop a futuristic train a la Turrican 3?  

I Believe that if Turrican should have a chance to make it as a 3D game. It shouldn't be as a FPS but more like "Ratchet & Clank" for the PS2. Maybe some of the levels could be a standard platform game, and others more FPS like. That would also give the game a more interesting gameplay.

Don't forget a good game isn't just good graphics. 3D or other eyecandy stuff is just something to make it more interesting.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

hm, also, zool could be an Amiga mascot

[MAD]

Hoya!

I do NOT really believe 3D could "improve" a 2D game.
Those are two different feelings and concepts.

What would be cool would be former Amiga programmers coding games for the new Amiga... But using their unvaluable know-how!

As for Turrican in 3D... Well, the major point of a platformer is being able to see from the side. 3D would totally kill it IMHO.

Be funky

M A D

[bloodline]

Yeah 2D and 3D are as different as chess and football.

"Hitman 3 Contracts" rocks... Mmmmm Eye candy :-D

[Holley]

Turrican could be good as a 3rd person shooter, but it would have to move faster than most 3rd person games of today.

Superfrog done in the style of Sonic Adventure would be a laugh ...

[Speelgoedmannetje]

@MAD
have you actually ever played Pandemonium, or Duke Nukem Manhatten Project?
both 3d platform games with 2d gameplay

[Hyperspeed]

AmigaOne really needs something to catch the eyes of the gaming
mainstream and resurrecting old classics would be the ideal way to do
this.

Look at classic NES game Metroid - Metroid Prime competed favourably
alongside Halo!

It's a pity a lot of characters we would consider Amiga mascots
strayed to other platforms. Lemmings went multi-platform as did Worms,
Zool and even Oscar appeared on SNES.

Then Whizz went to SNES. The PC had Super Stardust (but I'm informed
it was rubbish on PC) and so we are left with very little in terms of
exclusivity. Even Dune 2000 came out for PC.

Maybe we could get some fresh faces, I'm not that enamoured by
Superfrog or Sabrina.

For 2D -> 3D conversions I think Alien Breed has to be in there
somewhere, Stunt Car Racer and maybe Stardust. Gloom has a strong
following and Breathless caused minor ripples in the Amiga fps
community.

I think originality is key - not just endless ports of 6yr old PC
games.

:-)

[mikrucio]

Your all forgetting SUPERFROG!

that was an amiga only game.

it was great!!

i think zool was also amiga only.

both these games would be a good 3d game on ps2
coz xbox sux like a slut.

"Paint my wintel pc green and you get an xbox"
crap.

regards