Well, we lost...

[pixie]

Portugal did play better but they did make mistakes. If there had been no contact with the goalie then that goal could have been the end. Sloppy defending from both sides.

Everyone make mistakes, even champions.. as to this clear non-situation (about the goal who hadn't happened) brought by UK press is that can easily be seen that our goalie has been touched, obviously not by Sol, but he didn't need to be the one making the fault to void the goal, the english player was rather naive when he give Ricardo a chance to void the goal... but oh! We're so big, we're so beautiful, we cannot loose, it can't be our fault kind of attitude that show your arrogance towards the game itself...

England was winning against france and loose, played poorly against Swiss and still all you blame is the referee... typical from someone who cannot see himself on the mirror.

Cheers and happy riddance 'beckhome'!
 :lol:

[Doobrey]

pixie wrote:
but oh! We're so big, we're so beautiful, we cannot loose, it can't be our fault kind of attitude that show your arrogance towards the game itself...

 That one word says sums it all up, "game"
 Whatever happened to the days when sportsmanship meant something?
 The way some games are played, it`s almost as if they`re life depended on it.

[The_Editor]

The way some games are played, it`s almost as if they`re life depended on it.

And herein lies the problem.

England will never win diddly squat with that attitude.

To win you give your all ... And then a bit more.

If that had been a war ....  Our cities would now have been pillaged... Our women raped,  our sons murdered.

Sush is the absolute disaster defeat should be thought in.


As the Aussies say ....

when we have done our best,   We shall do a little better

(Advance Australia Fair.)


Our team just doesn't have the hunger for ultimate victory.

Apart from Rooney,  but thats the beauty of youth ... Death or Glory

And lets face it ... England love being losers ..We love sulking and whinging about lousy decisions.

[that_punk_guy]

Well, at least everyone's got the St. George flags out of my face now. And limited edition packaged pop is reduced to clear the shelves.

Oh yes, I love football. Ha ha ha! :-D

[Cyberus]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

Yup, I like the game, but not all the fuss around it.
And in particular, I do not like the ":pissed:" aspect of it, tis a friggin' game for goodness sake Cyberus! Well, now you lost, it's also fun to be for the green guys instead of being for the yellow guys (or whatever colour the English are).

Well, you missed the point.....again.

I was trying to convey the idea of expectance of some ribbing from Kenny. If you knew about the relationship between Scots and the English, particularly where football is involved, you'd perhaps see what I mean. It was meant to be a bit of fun.

If you really don't like football, why post on this thread anyway? It'd be like turning up to a Star Trek convention and standing at the back shouting, "Star Trek is crap!"

[Cyberus]

pixie wrote:

Portugal did play better but they did make mistakes. If there had been no contact with the goalie then that goal could have been the end. Sloppy defending from both sides.

Everyone make mistakes, even champions.. as to this clear non-situation (about the goal who hadn't happened) brought by UK press is that can easily be seen that our goalie has been touched, obviously not by Sol, but he didn't need to be the one making the fault to void the goal, the english player was rather naive when he give Ricardo a chance to void the goal... but oh! We're so big, we're so beautiful, we cannot loose, it can't be our fault kind of attitude that show your arrogance towards the game itself...

England was winning against france and loose, played poorly against Swiss and still all you blame is the referee... typical from someone who cannot see himself on the mirror.

Cheers and happy riddance 'beckhome'!
 :lol:

Yep. There'll be celebrations in the olive groves!
Perhaps people will treat themselves to a new donkey to commemorate the win. I hear you guys can get running water as well these days.....

;-)






Oh, am I generalising? Stereotyping? Silly isn't it...

but oh! We're so big, we're so beautiful, we cannot loose, it can't be our fault kind of attitude that show your arrogance towards the game itself...

Yeah, that must be where I said "I wish Portugal success in Euro2004". Arrogant aren't I?

[odin]

Cyberus wrote:
If you really don't like football, why post on this thread anyway? It'd be like turning up to a Star Trek convention and standing at the back shouting, "Star Trek is crap!"

Imagine all the plastic-eared and siliconforeheaded folks coming charging at you :lol:.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

odin wrote:

Cyberus wrote:
If you really don't like football, why post on this thread anyway? It'd be like turning up to a Star Trek convention and standing at the back shouting, "Star Trek is crap!"

Imagine all the plastic-eared and siliconforeheaded folks coming charging at you :lol:.

:nervous: they might be well trained in that Vulcan "grab-in-the-neck-and-your-enemy-falls-down-instantly-unconcious"
or they're wielding with experience a real sharp Klingon bat'leth replica.

[Vincent]

pixie wrote:
Everyone make mistakes, even champions.. as to this clear non-situation (about the goal who hadn't happened) brought by UK press is that can easily be seen that our goalie has been touched, obviously not by Sol, but he didn't need to be the one making the fault to void the goal, the english player was rather naive when he give Ricardo a chance to void the goal... but oh! We're so big, we're so beautiful, we cannot loose, it can't be our fault kind of attitude that show your arrogance towards the game itself...

I didn't watch the game, but I saw from half way through extra time and missed the controversial non-goal (do you think they'll hype this up like the goal that wasn't a goal during a certain world cup?), is there any vids of it on the net so I can see all the fuss for myself.

Oh yeah, being Scottish, I was laughing when Becks sent the ball into orbit from his penalty, and it was really cheeky for the Portugal keeper to go up for that last penalty :-P

[pixie]

It wasn't targeted at you really, even because you've said 'I wish Portugal success in Euro2004' ;-)

I was targeting mainly at tabloids over UK or at the ones saying 'Help! Help! We've been robbed!'

[GadgetMaster]

pixie wrote:
It wasn't targeted at you really, even because you've said 'I wish Portugal success in Euro2004' ;-)

I was targeting mainly at tabloids over UK or at the ones saying 'Help! Help! We've been robbed!'

Yes but you replied to me. And I was the one admitting that there was contact.

Oh well!

[pixie]

Sometimes when you write, you just go with the flow...

[GadgetMaster]

Sweden also had to go this cruel way after such a terrific performance.

[Calen]

Well f**k it, spent 10 minutes writing on what i thought of the game and other games so far but to loose it clicking side mouse button intead of left. bloody alcohol!

summary:
England out, whoopy!  
England was robbed, the goalie was not fouled.
Becks free kick should have been retaken, ball moved on run up
Refs have been terrible in the majority of games, complete shambles, except the bald genius of course


yada yada

Czech to win, my fav team of the comp

[Speelgoedmannetje]

Netherlands won again, or so what I've heard.
Dunno against who, not really interested

-edit- I do know now, twas Sweden, and if it wasn't for Robben (the Groninger, of course), they wouldn't have made it to the semi-finals

[The_Editor]

You would think that with the technology available today they could have an independent video panel to check just these sort of problems.

They could be linked to the Ref via one of those bluetooth earphones.


Would certainly cut down on these sort of incidents.