Problems transferring Twin Express to Amiga A500

[Specs78]

Hi Every1,
At the moment I am trying to restore some ADFs to disk to use on my Amiga A500+. I have run into a problem transferring Twin Express to my Amiga, by saving it on a PC formatted disk then, opening it with Workbench 2.1
When I try this, I get the Message: Not a DOS Disk. I have tried to format it on my Amiga, and also on my PC on the MS-DOS prompt and in My Computer. I still get this message. Also the when I put the disk in after loading Work Bench 2.1 The disk has no file name it just comes up as DF0:? Please help!
P.S. I have had a look at my RAM disk on Work Bench, and it says it's full! The three folders that are on: ENV, Clipboards and T? Should I delete these? I don't know what they are as I have only just brought the Amiga off of e-bay.


Specs78     :-)

[Ilwrath]

When I try this, I get the Message: Not a DOS Disk.

That is meaning that it's not an AmigaDOS disk -- which is correct -- you're trying to read a PC disk.  What you need to do is mount the PC0: device on your Workbench 2.1 "Storage" disk.  Then you can read PC disks by using the name PC0: instead of DF0:

P.S. I have had a look at my RAM disk on Work Bench, and it says it's full! The three folders that are on: ENV, Clipboards and T? Should I delete these?

RAM disk is always shown as 100% full.  It uses free system memory to inflate to whatever size is needed.  So, despite it being 100% full, you can still copy more stuff to it, so long as you have free memory in the computer (free RAM count is at the top of the workbench screen)

[blobrana]

hi Specs78
NO! don`t delete  ENV, Clipboards and T...(thought it`s quite safe, really, as it`s only data in memory - though you can`t use the amiga afterwards , er, until you reboot  

You tried formating `in full/complete` and not just `quick` ?
it should work...(?)
[when you choose format disk you get a choise of PC0(PC),  DF0(amiga) ?

But
You could double clicked on `crossdos` and get it mounted?

(Crossdos will be able to read and write PC disks , found in sys:storage/dosdrivers drawer called PCO: and PC1: hopefully. )

When a MS-DOS disk is inserted then you will see the MS-DOS icon and a DF0: icon. if an Amiga floppy is inserted you will see the normal icon...

Er, remember that when you open a PC formatted disk you need  to see the contents in Show all mode.

Hope that helps...


[100% full bug in workbench - forget about it ,or patch it]

[Ilwrath]

100% full bug in workbench

I wouldn't really call it a bug...  Since the RAM disk is only as large as its contents, its always 100% full.  The gauge is totally accurate, yet, in this case, 100% useless.  ;-)

[LocalH]

100% full bug in workbench - forget about it ,or patch it

Or use a RAD, they are of fixed size but persist through a soft boot (although not a hard boot such as those done with Degrader-type utilities).

Especially, if you have enough memory, you can copy your boot disk to RAD and then reboot from it, assuming you're not using a hard drive.

[Specs78]

Damn it! I was so close to getting it sorted! I mounted the PC0: device and tried to read the disk, the only problem was that I was still typing DF0: so this was causing the same problem.
If I manage to get the Amiga to  read the disk with Twin Express on it, how do I install the program to the ramdisk? Or don't I need to?
Also What do I do with the ADF file once its in RAM? I was told it would have to be coverted to a ADZ file, because the ADF file is to big to fit on a 720KB disk, is this true?

Specs78

[Ilwrath]

Damn it! I was so close to getting it sorted! I mounted the PC0: device and tried to read the disk, the only problem was that I was still typing DF0: so this was causing the same problem.

Yep.  I remember doing the same thing when learning how to use CrossDOS.  :-)  Took me a while to figure out that the same drive had different abilities by calling it different names.  ;-)

If I manage to get the Amiga to read the disk with Twin Express on it, how do I install the program to the ramdisk?

Well, that depends.  You probably don't need to "install" it, per se.  If it's just an executable, it should run from anywhere.  

If it's a .lha file, you'll have to uncompress it, and copy the files to their proper locations on your (copy of -- not the original! -- always use backups!) Workbench disk.  

I was told it would have to be coverted to a ADZ file, because the ADF file is to big to fit on a 720KB disk, is this true?

AFAIK, an ADZ is just a zipped ADF file.  And you are correct that a standard ADF of an 880KB disk won't fit on a PC 720KB disk.  

[Specs78]

How do you find "show all" in Work Bench 2.1? Also I have formatted the disk on the Amiga, as a PC0: disk (full format, and named it) and when I put Twin Express on it from the PC (by dragging the file into it in my computer)All I can see is the icon for the trashcan, and nothing else. Also does the disk I'm using have to be a 720kb disk? The reason I ask is that the PC won't read the disk It says it need to be formatted?

Specs78