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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2003, 02:49:43 PM »
@amigaone,

step by step guide as requested...

I'm assuming you have a usb cable modem and have ethernet connections on your amiga and pc

1. Use the usb connection to connect your modem to your pc (this is probably already the case)

2. Go to www.analogx.com and download the proxy software under the network subheading

3. Install the proxy on the pc

4. On your pc:

control panel -> settings -> network

click the entry that says:

Network_card -> tcp ip
and then properties

select assign an ip address manually and enter:

ip address 192.168.0.1
netmask 255.255.255.0

5.  On the amiga set your network settings as follows:

ip address 192.168.0.2
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.0.1

6.  Now start the proxy you downloaded and view the readme file , it will tell you all the port numbers the proxy uses.

7. Back to the amiga, modify ur browser proxy settings so they point to:

192.168.0.1 with the respective ports from the readme file (for the proxy)

Any questions, just ask....
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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2003, 02:53:48 PM »
The router connects to your broadband modem with an RJ45 ethernet cable via the Wan port on the router to the ethernet port on the modem.  Most routers will have 4 ethernet ports for plugging in computers to the network.   If your modem is USB only, then you will not be able to use it with a router (none that I know of).

In the case of USB only, setup the USB modem on the PC with drivers and configure your internet.  You will need to have an ethernet card in both the PC and AmigaOne, and connect them with a crossover cable.   Setup Internet Connection Sharing from the PC and select the USB modem as the device which you access the internet with, and the ethernet is for accessing your lan.   On the AmigaOne, you should just setup the network stack to obtain IP address auto from DHCP server.  This should work ok, but requires that the PC stay on to access the net from A1.  Hope that helps and makes sense.
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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2003, 02:56:08 PM »
Oh yeah should have mentioned that you WILL need to use a crossover cable between the two machines.  Thanks to herewegoagain for that reminder....
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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2003, 03:16:35 PM »
There is no cable modem
It comes through the NTL STB
 

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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2003, 03:20:37 PM »
Does the stb have an ethernet port (a spare one??)

If so use that to connect to your amiga

The config should still be the same though or at least very similar
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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2003, 03:21:35 PM »
You can get several free proxy servers for Winbloat  (e.g. Proksi, MultiProxy...), look at

download.com free proxy servers

I haven't done this myself, was thinking of it a few days ago, apparently though according to user opinions setting some of the free ones up is cake.
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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2003, 03:21:39 PM »
You can get several free proxy servers for Winbloat  (e.g. Proksi, MultiProxy...), look at

download.com free proxy servers

I haven't done this myself, was thinking of it a few days ago, apparently though according to user opinions setting some of the free ones up is cake.
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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2003, 03:41:50 PM »
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There is no cable modem
It comes through the NTL STB


Well, being in the US, I'm not familiar with their service.  But I took a look at the NTL website and requirements.  It looks like they offer 2 options for connecting broadband:  

1)  Through a cable modem, or
2)  Through your STB with built in cable modem

Taken from their "what you need page".

So you do have a cable modem, its just integrated into the STB.  The big question is if it has an ethernet port or USB only?  According to this page, if you have an STB you should have recieved the following items:

An Ethernet cable
Ethernet-to-USB adapter
Cross-over (x-over) adapter

Those items will allow you to do the things discussed above.

This seems to be a fairly good source of info too:
http://www.ntluser.co.uk/
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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2003, 03:42:06 PM »
@AmigaOne

What kind of STB do  you have from NTL ?

Can you link to pictures of the ports etc that are on the box?  

How is the PC connected to  the box?

I use a Draytek  Vigor2200USB router that is connected to a USB ADSL modem. They now have a new version with the modem built in.

I don't know if any of  these are compatible with your setup. If they are I recommend them.
 

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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2003, 03:53:03 PM »
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I use a Draytek Vigor2200USB router that is connected to a USB ADSL modem. They now have a new version with the modem built in.


That's cool they now support USB modems, but it seems these are for ADSL only, and just support about 7 different modems specifically.  I don't think that would work with the broadband service he is using as it comes in via STB and not ADSL.
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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2003, 04:09:46 PM »
Connect the PC to the modem via ethernet.
Turn modem off (Motorola) Turn back on.
From msdos prompt type:

ipconfig /renew

Set up internet explorer to use LAN.

You should get have an IP address.

Shut down windows.

Install a second network card

Connect the Amiga one to the 2nd network card using a cat5 cross over cable.

Boot Windows / Amiga

Windows 95 / 98 download and install wingate

Windows me

Add programs / windows setup / comms / ICS
ICS stands for internet connection sharing.
Go through the wizard.

Windows 2000 / XP right click on properties for the 1st network card and click internet sharing.

start the tcp/ip using dchp on the miggy and bobs your uncle you should be done.

Did my PC (win2000) and A1200T miamidx /samba in about 10 mins yesterday.

Dont connect the Motorola using USB for ICS
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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2003, 04:16:27 PM »
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Paul_Gadd wrote:
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NTL broadband uses USB IIRC


They send their customers those USB adapters but i prefer to use a ethernet card than NTL`s adapter and their crappy cd which still they keep teling people they must use the cd which is total lies,


The CD is designed for PC muppets. people who should realy put their PC in a box and send it back to pc-world.
You wonder why you cant get through to the helpline.
Its because of these thick people. But you cant say that to them when they are paying you £40 a month.

The CD is designed to help stop fraud. The DHCP severs are configured to look for the MAC address of the modem.
If the Server finds a Unregistered modem during a sweep it will block that mac address.
It will take you to the autoreg site where you enter the MAC address of the modem.

Unless you know the URL of the Register Site you have to use the CD.

If the MAC is not registered the regsiter is the only one you will be able to connect to.

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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2003, 04:19:25 PM »
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AmigaOne wrote:
There is no cable modem
It comes through the NTL STB


You living in an old cable and wireless franschise area. With cable and wireless STB's.

Diamond cable (ntl) does not use STB's with the modems built in.
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Re: NTL broadband on the AmigaOne from a PC
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2003, 04:44:17 PM »
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That's cool they now support USB modems, but it seems these are for ADSL only, and just support about 7 different modems specifically.  I don't think that would work with the broadband service he is using as it comes in via STB and not ADSL.


To quote from the Draytek website :

>>>>> Cable - Cable Modem Interface. The product has an RJ45 10BaseT Etherner socket which plugs into your cable modem or set-top box's Ethernet interface, using the RJ45 CAT5 cable (supplied). This is ideal for UK cable services from Telewest Blueyonder and NTL. The interface can also be used to route to any other type of Ethernet connected network, or another router, including another ADSL router such as a non-NATted ADSL router <<<<
 

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Re: NTL Broadband On The AmigaOne From A PC
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2003, 04:53:06 PM »
@JurassicCamper

You mentioned wingate,

Can that be used on a single machine with broadband access to hide the ip address?

 

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Re: NTL broadband on the AmigaOne from a PC
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 26, 2003, 06:14:20 PM »
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To quote from the Draytek website :

>>>>> Cable - Cable Modem Interface. The product has an RJ45 10BaseT Etherner socket which plugs into your cable modem or set-top box's Ethernet interface, using the RJ45 CAT5 cable (supplied). This is ideal for UK cable services from Telewest Blueyonder and NTL. The interface can also be used to route to any other type of Ethernet connected network, or another router, including another ADSL router such as a non-NATted ADSL router <<<<


Um.....yeah, I know that the other versions support the ethernet port and cable modems, but you were talking about the Vigor2200USB version, which is why I commented on that one.  A bit of miscommunication I think.
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