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Hard disk ain't mounting
« on: June 19, 2004, 04:13:01 PM »
Hi everybody,

Im having a spot of bother with a hard drive i got hold of and am tryng to get it working on my A1200.

The drive is an IBM DHAA-2405 and is 344MB in size.
I thought i saw somewhere (on here) that this drive is supposed to work with the Ami. Though im getting a bit Peeved trying to get this to work.

HDTool box will recognise it and partition it as normal, but it wont mount the drive after. Automount is set and its bootable but no device will appear.

Im not too clear on how mounting (in the device sense of the word) works. As far as i can tell the details are/can be held in a mountlist/file.

Could this be a drive that needs a boot disk of some kind?

Please, please help, before i get a broken window and a flying hard disk.

Thanks in advance.
 

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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2004, 04:23:21 PM »
Hi

So when you choose the format option (in your menu) you cant see the drive....?





(er, you need to format the disk)

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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2004, 04:28:16 PM »
Yeah, the device isnt there so theres no disk to format.
And the device doesnt show in the early startup menu either(holding both mouse buttons), only the usual floppy drives are there.
Even booting worbench from floppy doesnt make a difference. Thats why i thought maybe this drive needed to be mounted manually or something.

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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2004, 04:34:22 PM »
Hum,
Well unless you`ve connected it up wrong (?), or the IDE cable is faulty (a good possibility) then the device should show up....

You don`t have to really have to `mount` the device...



Oh, the drive has been jumpered to being the master?

Better check

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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2004, 04:48:42 PM »
Could it be something to do with Reselection on the install disk?

Boot using Install floppy, run the install script (I can't remember where it is on the disk, but I don't think it's the main one) and when you get the chance turn reselection "on" then reboot.
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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2004, 05:02:42 PM »
Hum,
my jedi powers are weak, but i feel that is not Reselection...


i assume you`ve soft-reset  the amiga just to make sure that it has time to `spin up ` and get detected...


Have you tried another version of HDtoolbox?




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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2004, 05:06:21 PM »
Just did that (reselection), the drives appear whilst its doing it, then when its finished they dissapear again.

Got my hopes up that did, lol.
 

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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2004, 05:09:17 PM »
yeah the drive spins up and seems to work fine when the device is available.

Um any idea where i can get some different versions of tool box. or other Hd prep tools.
 

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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2004, 05:22:51 PM »

It's not HDToolbox, it is the drive spinning up too slow and spinning down during reset. Do you have Kickstart 3.1 ? If not, get it, it waits longer for the drive to spin up than every older Kickstart.

If you already have Kick 3.1 or don't want to buy it, cut the reset line on the IDE cable (Pin 1, usually the one marked red). Be carefull to not cut any other line. Now the drive may still be invisible after power-up but should appear during warm-reset and not disappear again until you switch off the computer.

However, if you still want to try another partitioning program, get HDInstTool from Aminet. http://de.aminet.net/aminetbin/find?hdinsttool

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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2004, 05:23:28 PM »
Hum,
so there is hope left...

IT`S A 44 pin IDE cable ,huh? -
try cutting wire one (RED) -

(don`t do this if you haven't got another spare cable/ or shaky hands)

I just thought ,it`s strange that its 344Mb.... it should be 405 Mb
HD_examine.lha


Try Aminet?

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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2004, 05:27:21 PM »
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monkian_2k wrote:
Hi everybody,

Im having a spot of bother with a hard drive i got hold of and am tryng to get it working on my A1200.

The drive is an IBM DHAA-2405 and is 344MB in size.
I thought i saw somewhere (on here) that this drive is supposed to work with the Ami. Though im getting a bit Peeved trying to get this to work.

HDTool box will recognise it and partition it as normal, but it wont mount the drive after. Automount is set and its bootable but no device will appear.

Im not too clear on how mounting (in the device sense of the word) works. As far as i can tell the details are/can be held in a mountlist/file.

Could this be a drive that needs a boot disk of some kind?

Please, please help, before i get a broken window and a flying hard disk.

Thanks in advance.


Did you click on "save changes" in hdtoolbox before you quit? You have to do this first, and then reset the Amiga..
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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2004, 05:33:49 PM »
Right,

I think they  made 2 versions, dont ask me why, but this is definately 344MB as it says on the label.

the cutting pin 1 thing. I did try that earlier and it didn't seem to change anything. I have 3.0 and cant really afford the chips, though i would like them.

Im just going to try those aminet tools out.

I appreciate the help everyone.

Thanks God for that, it appears to be working now.
It seems that pin 1 was causing the trouble after all.
Though im pretty sure i tried that yesterday.

Anyway the main thing is that it seems to be working now. :-)

So thanks to everyone for the help.

Think i might stick around, theres some nice friendly Amiga people round these parts. :lol:
 

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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2004, 11:43:47 PM »
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monkian_2k wrote:
Think i might stick around, theres some nice friendly Amiga people round these parts. :lol:

Lesser-spotted Amigausers help an even lesser spotted Amiganewbie out of a tight spot once again :-)
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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2004, 01:49:14 AM »
You have spots Vincent?

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Re: Hard disk ain't mounting
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2004, 02:27:44 AM »
Ummm, not really an Amiga Newbie.
Had Amigas since early 90's. A500+ was my first, saved up for 1MB upgrade, then saved more for a second floppy disk drive, then more saving till i could get one of those big harddisks which were great.
Later I got my mum to buy me a second and A1200 for my birthday, lol, which is what i still have today.
But yeah, lesser spotted indeed, it's a shame really cos Amigas can still provide top notch fun.

Does everybody else have 3.1 roms and OS3.9 then? have i been left behind?
I'd quite like to set my Ami up in a tower, anyone know how much the parts needed would cost; rough estimate?

Anyway, enough for tonight. Byeee.