Shark Os4

[DeQuevedo]

@Piru

Yep, Im agree. Seems to be a tactic to sell more / mantain the mediator sales.

Well. Would be great to see in the street the MOS 1.4 for BPPC!!! :-D

What about that?  :-D:-D:-D

[Naeem]

All things come to those who wait :-)


(C) The old Heinz Kethcup Ad.

Same here?

[mboehmer_e3b]

...that they can demo to show that this is not vaporware.  

Talking about vapourware, has anyone already seen on of these eFlash1200 cards? I don't mean seen in the web shop, or in an advertisment, but for real?

Michael

[ksk]

@Piru

"Personally I think this was just a tactic to secure more Mediator sales."

Mainly, yes I agree.

"I predict Shark will never really appear, possibly Elbox blaming AmigaInc(KMOS?)/Hyperion for non-co-operation."

Could be. Time will tell. So far they have very good track record in releasing promised things.

"Not to mention the fact Poland is now part of EU, and such Elbox must now follow the EU regulations."

But it should also make Elbox products more competitive in pricing inside EU. Elbox product are now 1/3 cheaper (example from Finland). More difficult for companies like DCE to compete with Elbox in whatever Elbox desides to do.


I would like to see the return of CPU board manufacturers to  Amiga market. (G3 accelerator with built in Radeon7000 for A1200 could sell well, 1.4Ghz accelerator for A1 machines could also be worthwhile (if it's just converted from Apple megarray version to A1 megarray version).

[Doobrey]

mboehmer_e3b wrote:
Talking about vapourware, has anyone already seen on of these eFlash1200 cards?

Weren`t they just bog standard PCMCIA flash cards that you can get off ebay for a couple of quid ?

Anyway,how many people have the PCMCIA slot free these days?

[KennyR]

As well as what Piru said, there's the practical side to consider. Even if by some miracle these Sharks come out and work with OS4, who's really going to pay close on the price of an AmigaONE motherboard (and probably more expensive than a Pegasos) for a PPC card? Think about all those horrible 1991 A1200 bottlenecks. PIO HD access (ARGH), slow memory bandwidth, the works. Why pay so much money for a card that's going to be able to reach about 20% of its true potential in an ancient Amiga, an ancient Amiga that could die any time soon?

[Effy]

I am not a genius, but what about Elbox writing a few drivers for some pci IDE controllers You can buy them in any pc store. Most pc guys buy them to expand their IDE connectors from two to four, but why can´t it be used on a Mediator or Prometheus or Grex No more bottleneck about harddrive transfer  :-)

[Piru]

@Effy

A1200 Mediator can't do DMA to system memory, so (U)DMA modes are out. And even if it did, Z3 transfer rate is too slow for UDMA. Plain PIO modes suck all cpu, and with the IO speed for Mediator the results would be more than disappointing.

Probably that's why there's no PCI ide card driver.

[Effy]

But the transfers between pci cards is 132 Mb/sec, not So the transfers from the hd that are connected to the IDE pci controller to the Shark PPC pci card are maximum 132 Mb/sec, not

[Piru]

But the transfers between pci cards is 132 Mb/sec, not

That's what they say, it's the theoretical maximum. Haven't seen any actual benchmarks, however. Any benchmarks apps to run on Mediator that benchmark transfer speed between two PCI cards?

I don't believe 132MB/sec until I see it.

So the transfers from the hd that are connected to the IDE pci controller to the Shark PPC pci card are maximum 132 Mb/sec, not

Not many HDs reach that speed, nor does UDMA interface.

[Effy]

True, but at least it´s supposed to be a lot faster than when the harddrive is connected to the internal port ... that is : if they write drivers for pci IDE controllers ...

[bloodline]

Effy, the point is that any system based around the mediator (especially with the aged C= Amiga hardware) is going to suck compared to a similarly priced PPC system (ie the Peg or the A1)

[Effy]

True as well, but until WinUAE can perfectly emulate AGA I still prefer to use a Shark PPC than an AmigaOne or Pegasos II ...

[Miky060]

Effy,
you can easily use UAE also on MorphOS/Pegasos. Where is the prob?

You can see a grab I just made for you here :-)
www.pegasos-italia.com/privato/MOS_050.png

[itix]

My eyes hurt when watching tiny window... Someone should add an overlay support into UAE...! :-)

[sdesros]

There is fullscreen support too you know.