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Shark Os4
« on: June 19, 2004, 01:10:50 PM »
Hi Dudes

Well, the Pre-release CD of Amiga OS4, is out.

That, simply, means the a CD booteable on amiga one of the Os4 revision of the OS.

Elbox have been claimming by years that the production of shark will start when the OS4 for AMIGAONE hits the streets.
The moment finally arrived. Since elbox claimed the Shark to be FULL capable of running the very same version of Os4 than Amiga One... where are the sharks? Where are the shots of the hardware running?

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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2004, 01:20:41 PM »
Elbox have been claiming by years that the production of shark will start when the OS4 for AMIGAONE hits the streets.

Well, it's a pre release or developers release only so Elbox can still hang on to that.. Tho I don't believe the shark will come out when os 4.9 hits the streets..
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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2004, 01:22:58 PM »
Yeah its this what led me to my very first post here.

(about when / if sharkppc will be supported).


Elbox have been very clever.  They are waiting for the official release of Os4.0 + AmigaONE bundle.  This is not a pre-rel but the actual (full) release.

Is that out yet?
 

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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2004, 01:24:23 PM »
thats a bit anti shark.

I think it will, certainly before OS 4.9 :-)

 

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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2004, 01:25:21 PM »
On that note which PPC accelerators will OS4.0 work on?  I know accel. A1200 and A4000's were supposed to be supported.
 

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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2004, 01:28:33 PM »
thats a bit anti shark.

Only a bit ? ;-)

I think it will, certainly before OS 4.9  :-)

Well, I do hope it does, but I really doubt it. Also the part that the Amiga One version (Or the cyberstorm version) will run on it without any work is really doubtfull.. As allways, lets wait and see..
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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2004, 01:29:14 PM »
Er...not much choice in PPC cards, now is there. Only the Blizzard and the Cyberstorm (well and the CS dev boards..) and OS4 is already working on both (that is, early versions of OS4).

I want OS4 for Bliz now! :-x. Only reason I'm holding on to the A1200. It's currently gathering dust under my desk.

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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2004, 01:30:50 PM »
On that note which PPC accelerators will OS4.0 work on?

At first only the CyberstormPPC (A3000/4000) and later the the BlizzardPPC (?) sollutions for the A1200..
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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2004, 01:43:16 PM »
If Elbox holds out too much longer, their potential customers will either
buy AmigaOnes or if not already, leave the platform.  I do not see the
logic anymore in Elbox holding out. Two years ago, yes this made sence,
but I have a funny feeling that the Shark will not run OS4 as planned.
Surely there is a prototype somewhere that can run a beta version of OS4,
especially since the official version is in the final moments before its release.


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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2004, 01:46:53 PM »
I really hope Shark will be out for real, but, sadly, I doubt it in a seriously way. As a friend of mine says " Shark its only a way to sell more mediators"

If Shark do really exists, it wouldnt have problems to run Os prerelease, since elbox says its 100% One compatible, and hey, Prerelease already runs on amiga one!

I would like A LOT to put it into my 1200PPC mediator and keep it going as much time as possible. I love my 1200 too much.:-D If it ever get out, Im the veru first buying it :-)

Os4 actually runs fine on CSPPC (Amiga 3000, 4000 and 1200 with CPU slot adaptor -I Think-) and on BlizzardPPC on Amiga 1200.
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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2004, 01:52:33 PM »
@C Snyder

A proto running? Where have you seen that!?

If I were elbox I will take a shots runnign Os4 prerelease or what ever, to say the amigans "Hey, Were here"

And yes,many of the amigans left, have bought a Pegasos/One, but many more, as me, wants to keep his amiga classic and get it with probably the last turboboard ever.

AmigaOne is cool, and pegasos, sure, but thery are not amiga, annyway not amiga in the same way as classic are, from my point of view. There was too much years with my 1200 and I want to keep it going :)
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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2004, 01:53:00 PM »
To me it seems like Elbox is cornered.

There are no new classic Amiga systems being made, and old Amigas are dying at alarming rate. Most of the classic users have already bought the PCI solution, the market is saturated. No new PCI bridge can offer such new features it would trigger new purchases (few more PCI slots doesn't quite make it).

Further Elbox has claimed OS4 upgrade path thru Mediator with SharkPPC. The solution has never been seen actually running anything. Personally I think this was just a tactic to secure more Mediator sales. I predict Shark will never really appear, possibly Elbox blaming AmigaInc(KMOS?)/Hyperion for non-co-operation.

Not to mention the fact Poland is now part of EU, and such Elbox must now follow the EU regulations. Pulling another illegal stunt like the "RDB-trashing protection" will not be possible without consequences.
 

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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2004, 02:32:05 PM »
@DeQuevedo

I didn't say that I have seen one running.  Let me clarify my statement.
If the Shark will run OS4 and its production is only being held back
until OS4 is released, then surely Elbox has a prototype that they can
demo to show that this is not vaporware.  Since elbox has not done this
I can only assume that the development of the Shark, either hardware
related or OS4 related, has not gone as planned.
 

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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2004, 02:47:44 PM »
Products like the  Shark have been around for some time now. Teron make one called the Micro Server that uses all the same chips as the A1/teron boards. I have seen these. The first Shark prototype I saw was nothing more then a Mac PCI card upgrade from Sonnet with a new cover on it. So if they figured out some drivers for these, the Teron even more so can just take over the Amiga and use it as a slave for the PCI slots and other hardware. All tgat would be used is the Mediator for PCI slots, any video, sound, TV, Ethernet card as well. Keep in mind they want to use one that has all this on the card too so that just makes the classic Amiga it on a real pricey tower and PSU. Here are several of them from another company selling now. http://www.varisys.co.uk/powerpcproducts.html
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Re: Shark Os4
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2004, 03:20:14 PM »
@Piru

Yep, Im agree. Seems to be a tactic to sell more / mantain the mediator sales.

Well. Would be great to see in the street the MOS 1.4 for BPPC!!! :-D

What about that?  :-D:-D:-D
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