When will the A1 / OS 4.0 bundle be available?

[Naeem]

Hi there,

When will we be able to buy A1/OS4.0?
Will OS4.0 support the SharkPPC cards, any timelines?
Will there be a pegasos port of OS4.0?  (Pegasos website thinks so!)

[mikeymike]

Yes.

Possibly.

No.

:-)

To add to the first answer, if we knew, there would be news articles all over the place about it.

[Naeem]

:-)

I like your style Moderator dude.

Just a point, possibly should be directed at Hyperion (they the OS writers, right?), all this hype surrounding the A1/OS4.0 release, coupled with the uncertainty of when, where, and what, people are rekindling their passion for the Amiga and then bogging off and buying a pegasos cos thats out there and established, and does what they want it to do.  They are more interested in Amiga how it is / was rather than the new A1 platform (I guess is what I'm trying to say :-) )

In a way the official amiga is becoming the nectar for a Pegasos Venus Flytrap.  Ahem.

If I was in OS4.0 marketing I would put out an official (heavily optimistic) release date out there from the off and have boards going out with the pre-rel.  Just to cash in on my own hype.

Incidentally where can I buy a board from?  I would like a PPC linux box anyways.

[cant seem to find a website that actually has any, though they all are advertising them]

[mikeymike]

Naeem wrote:
:-)
I like your style Moderator dude.

Just a point, possibly should be directed at Hyperion (they the OS writers, right?), all this hype surrounding the A1/OS4.0 release, coupled with the uncertainty of when, where, and what, people are rekindling their passion for the Amiga and then bogging off and buying a pegasos cos thats out there and established, and does what they want it to do.  They are more interested in Amiga how it is / was rather than the new A1 platform (I guess is what I'm trying to say :-) )
In a way the official amiga is becoming the nectar for a Pegasos Venus Flytrap.  Ahem.

What do you suggest Hyperion should be doing instead?  Suggest 'port OS4 to Pegasos' and you will get a slap! :-)

If I was in OS4.0 marketing I would put out an official (heavily optimistic) release date out there from the off and have boards going out with the pre-rel.  Just to cash in on my own hype.

That's a tad unscrupulous, and it was precisely what Amiga Inc did, and Hyperion's reputation took a hit because of it.

Incidentally where can I buy a board from?  I would like a PPC linux box anyways.

There are AFAIK several suppliers of AmigaOne/boards worldwide.  www.eyetech.co.uk is the centre one, they're based in the UK.

[itix]

Flamebait :-)

[BigBenAussie]

Excuse my ignorance, but why is a port of OS4 to Pegasos necessary anyway? The problem, as I see it, is potential incompatability with OS4 with future apps, not OS4 itself. Morphos currently looks like a better environment than OS4 does. As long as it can run the same apps, who cares?

The Morphos team went to all the trouble to reverse engineer the 68k AmigaOS, can't they do the same with OS4? Isn't all the information required, ie the API etc, all available as part of the OS4 SDK. Theoretically they could begin now that the pre-release is out. With a bit of effort Morphos could be more OS4 compatabile than OS4. :-o

I admit, I could have this entirely wrong. So I'll shut up now. :-?

[mikeymike]

The Morphos team went to all the trouble to reverse engineer the 68k AmigaOS, can't they do the same with OS4?

Potential legal conflict.  I'm not a lawyer, I don't know.  Let's not have a load of responses where people pretend they are lawyers, please.

[itix]

Isn't all the information required, ie the API etc, all available as part of the OS4 SDK. Theoretically they could begin now that the pre-release is out. With a bit of effort Morphos could be more OS4 compatabile than OS4.

OS4 SDK is available for A1 users only. But it doesnt matter because technically OS4 and MOS are very different.

Maybe if the software is not doing any OS calls you could run OS4 binary in MOS and vice versa :-)

[Rogue]

When will we be able to buy A1/OS4.0?

I guess now. AFAIK the new boards are sold with the same prerelease CD.

Will OS4.0 support the SharkPPC cards, any timelines?

I can start to estimate this as soon as I get a SharkPPC. Before that it's a moot point.

Will there be a pegasos port of OS4.0? (Pegasos website thinks so!)

I don't think this is about "think so" or "not think so". If someone licenses AmigaOS for Pegasos, there is a definite possibility.

[Rogue]

They are more interested in Amiga how it is / was rather than the new A1 platform (I guess is what I'm trying to say  )

Why do you think so?

If I was in OS4.0 marketing I would put out an official (heavily optimistic) release date out there from the off and have boards going out with the pre-rel. Just to cash in on my own hype.

That's what happened in the past, and we won't make that same mistake again. The current release date is set to "when it's done", and that describes it pretty accurate.

[Rogue]

Morphos currently looks like a better environment than OS4 does.

Based on what assumption? Did you see both and compare?

Isn't all the information required, ie the API etc, all available as part of the OS4 SDK. Theoretically they could begin now that the pre-release is out. With a bit of effort Morphos could be more OS4 compatabile than OS4

Apart from that being a rather stupid comment ("more OS4 compatible than OS4"), it's legally impossible because the SDK  material is copyright protected.

[mikeymike]

With a bit of effort Morphos could be more OS4 compatabile than OS4

Apart from that being a rather stupid comment

Please guys, let's keep this civil.

[odin]

Hook, line and sinker once again it seems....

[Rogue]

Please guys, let's keep this civil.

I don't consider "more OS4 compatible than OS 4" and a call to reverse-engineer out work civil to start with.

[MarkTime]

Rogue wrote:

Please guys, let's keep this civil.

I don't consider "more OS4 compatible than OS 4" and a call to reverse-engineer out work civil to start with.

I don't know if anyone remembers me, but I used to be a regular on these boards...just popping in for a visit.

I see nothings changed.

well, until next time.