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Re: OS4 online via win98 pc?
« Reply #14 from previous page: June 18, 2004, 02:16:33 AM »
Uh, yeah. That should be 168 - damn typos. :-x

Actually that number doesn't really matter. 192.168.x.x is used for LANs generally because it doesn't clash with internet IPs.

192.168.2.1 - PC

192.168.2.2 - A1

That should be it. Sorry for typo. :-\

I really recommend a router, by the way; you can get all of your machines online at the same time, Peg, PC and A1, and transfer files between them all, with no need for gate software or having one machine on all the time.
 

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Re: OS4 online via win98 pc?
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2004, 09:39:17 PM »
I don't f*cking believe this: typed a huge reply, hit submit and the bar steward vanished!!! Arrrgghhh!!!


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Re: OS4 online via win98 pc?
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2004, 09:47:50 PM »
PC seems OK (Wingate and ICS)

A1:
Prefs -> Internet -> Interfaces -> eth3com.device, unit/port = 0, use static IP 192.168.2.2, subnet mask 255.255.2.2 -> use -> save.

Internet -> New Connection -> Ethernet (DSL LAN) -> Manual config.
Device driver eth3com.device, port 0

connection name Robert, service name vispa, interface name PPPoE.

I still get 'connection failed - too many retries'.

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Re: OS4 online via win98 pc?
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2004, 11:01:24 PM »
@ Wilse

Check the cable.

Easy way to tell. Get both ends of the cable. On the ethernet RJ45 cable you will see it has little plastic spring clips on top. Turn both ends around so the clips face the bottom, hold them side by side, so the cable kinda looks like this.

{} {}
 | |
 | |
 |_|

Where :

{} is an RJ45 connector.

- = Cable.

(sorry for the bad ascii diagram)!

Ok, so now you can see the thin coloured wires in the bottom.

IF =

The colours are in the SAME order from left > right you have a PATCH cable (no good for Comp>Comp configuration)

IF =

The colours are in a different order, more than likely X-Over :-)

EG i have an X over cable here and the order of the wires is ;

RJ45 plug #1 =

green,white/orange,blue,orange,brown

RJ45 plug #2 =

orange/white,orange,blue,green,brown

Oh, and it says Xover on it :-)

Hope this helps!

Kev
WinUAE Only... OS3.9 with 512mb ZIII ram ;)
 

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Re: OS4 online via win98 pc?
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2004, 11:03:05 PM »
Oh...
PPPoE
AInt that dialup only?
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Re: OS4 online via win98 pc?
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2004, 11:05:09 PM »
@Wilse

If there is an option on your A1 to specify Gate IP, enter your PC IP address (192.168.2.1) there.
 

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Re: OS4 online via win98 pc?
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2004, 01:13:43 AM »
Is this a DSL modem or an actual modem?

Cabling should look like:
PC<-->Hub<-->Amiga

Cables should be non-crossover; some hubs can autosense and adjust, but as usual, it's good to reduce variables.  Some hubs also have a switchable or permanently crosswired "uplink port;" plug your non-crossed wires into normal ports only, please.

Easy way to tell a crossover cable:  Look at the connectors from the top (non-clip side).  A normal "straight through" cable will have the same color wires on pins 1 and 2 on both ends (first two pins on the left... they get paired up as a solid and stripe pair, so just look at the one that you can see color on).  A crossover cable will have different colors, because the pairs are crossed.

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To actually use "Internet Connection Sharing," you need to  activate it somehow.  It's an optional component, so if you have 98SE and can't find it in the Start Menu (Control Panel submenu?), you need to add it as an option, I forget how the heck you do that but I think it's under Add New Software in the Control Panel or something, then Add/Remove Windows Components.

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If this is a DSL modem, you're best off getting a generic router (Linksys, 2Wire, whatever's cheap at the drugstore this week) and not having to think.  If it's a regular modem and you don't want an excuse to get rid of dialup, yeah, you're a bit stuck, though if you want to throw money at the problem, a similar US$50 can get you one of these if you can find one:  Actiontec home router with 56k modem ... which can make an entertaining geek toy, too.

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Edit:  The discontinued 3Com 3C510 apparently is/was another cheap home router with a modem.  This article mentions similar SMC, Asante, and GVC products, which might be more readily available wherever you are.

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Double-Edit:  The 3Com 3C888 is a bit overkill, but was available in Europe, and there's one going for 0.99 of your monetary units on eBay.co.uk.  Note that it is a standard router, should be no problem using it with Macs or Amigas despite the seller's confusion.

Of course, if you get ICS working, that'll work too, but I can say that, if you can afford it, it's worth buying the hardware so you never have to waste your time on it.  Always a good idea to get your Windows-machine-securing firewall offloaded to less-exploitable hardware, too.
 

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Re: OS4 online via win98 pc?
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2004, 05:46:08 PM »
@Floid:

I have two patch cables.

Config is now:
PC -> Hub port 1 (I've just switched this from uplink)
Amiga -> Hub port 2.

It's a dial-up modem, although I've finally bitten the bullet and ordered broadband. Should have it in 'two more weeks'. ;-)

I'd still like to get this working in the meantime.

I've tried with both ICS and Wingate.