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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2004, 09:41:45 PM »
will Cybervision 64/3d work on 68000? or should it be 68020 min?
 

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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2004, 12:05:56 AM »
pretty sure it's 020+ which means you'll have to buy an accelerator too!  :-)
 

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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2004, 08:35:39 AM »
I cant belive i get a Cybervision graphics card next week and also a Turbocad 68040 @ 25 :) The only think is im not sure if my good old A2000 rev6 will like that turbocard. ( Anybody know?)

Thanks for all the tips.
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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2004, 09:35:05 AM »
When you have your Cybervision you can skip 8bit mode, true color is much much better :-D
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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2004, 09:51:57 AM »
Apache2k, I'm interested to see how you get on with your current set of upgrades, if you could keep this thread posted.

I imagine an old 'big box' Amiga like an A2k or A3k would be quite cheap unexpanded, that the upgrade path doesn't look quite so high-investment as it appears to be with my A1200.

Only problem I can think of is IDE, A2k/3k is SCSI isn't it?  How could I stick an IDE disk in it, how much for the expansion parts needed (I have disks spare)?

A run-down of cost to get an unexpanded A2k/A3k to run say WB3.1, IDE disks, and a reasonable graphics card for 2D decent resolutions and colours, would be interesting to read.
 

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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2004, 09:54:30 AM »
Hi Apache2k,

IIRC A2000 rev 6, is OK :-)

Only the earlier rev 4 has some problem with HD controllers and so.

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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2004, 10:01:15 AM »
Hi mikeykike,

only the A2000HD model, has SCSI (IIRC through a A2091 controller).

http://amiga.emugaming.com/a2000.html

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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2004, 10:31:46 AM »
Well i have two options:

All the parts will fit and ill get a Turbo Amiga2000

Or ill have nice parts to sell on eBay :))

My 3.0 rom is also arriving soon...

I cant wait that ill get all theparts and can start working on it :)

Apache2k
 

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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2004, 11:52:47 AM »
Could someone with decent knowledge of the A2k/A3k do a writeup of the practical, upgrade potential of it?  I'm fairly sure I could find a permanent place for the article on Amiga.org.
 

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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2004, 01:11:18 PM »
@Apache2k

 Yes the OCS and ECS Amigas use up to 16 colors only in Highres Interlaced mode. I think this is quite fine and it works for me on an A600 with 68030 33mhz and 32mb of ram. What you really should add is:

VisualPrefs
MagicMenu
ToolsDaemon
MUI

to reduce the flickering seriously.  Also dont settle for less, get the 3.1 Roms, not the 3.0! and get the MEGACHIP for 2 megs of chipram.

the 68040 is good and I guess a gfx card is good too. I have never used a gfx card and dont plan to as I mostly do video and dont want my NTSC compatibility screwed up. I love my setup as it all runs in Video modes (704 x 480) or so.  I also have an A2000 with 68040 and Megachip


Also, you could run WB in 32 colors if you put the resolution in LoRes (320 x 200) with autoscroll, and it could look nice with the right icons and visual prefs etc..
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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2004, 01:43:32 PM »
Yes,,That could be very interesting subject if there would be part here for the classic/non classic amigas...how far you can upgrade with what components...
I bet many users would like that , i would :)
 

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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2016, 05:54:34 PM »
Quote from: jutrem;115385
I just checked. It's hamwb.lha on Aminet.
Run Workbench in 4096 or 262144 colors.
speed would depend on your setup.

Does anyone have any experience with using this on 3.1? I had been using the Rebel16 palette and tried to switch to Ham6 laced using HamWB but it has just messed all my colours up.
 
 The wallpaper looks worse than the 16 colour version. How is this supposed to be used?
 

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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2016, 09:13:44 PM »
You need a picture with lots of colors, open it with Deluxe pain or PPaint or what ever wich upports HAM. Save it to use HAM. Thats for backdrop, I have no idee how to get icons use HAM? Maybe peterk's new icon.library supports HAM?
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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2016, 01:34:56 AM »
Quote from: mikeymike;115352
Even with AGA, on a decent res (let's say approximately 640x480), 256 colour display, it will crawl.

Graphics card.


With Peter K's excellent ICON library even 800x600 is workable in AGA @ 256 color depth :)


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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2016, 02:00:33 AM »
Quote from: NovaCoder;816238
With Peter K's excellent ICON library even 800x600 is workable in AGA @ 256 color depth :)


Sure, but don't you also have something like an 80MHz '060? ;)
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Re: Min. 256 color desktop.
« Reply #29 from previous page: November 09, 2016, 04:21:10 AM »
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Sure, but don't you also have something like an 80MHz '060? ;)


Not anymore my friend :(

Seriously though, with the correct patches and the new icon.library a 256/128 color desktop is usable on AGA for most processors.
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