Ronald Reagan

[Dan]

FluffyMcDeath wrote:

redrumloa wrote:
re: Regan is dead

But he could still beat Bush for the Repulican candidate if someone would nominate him.

Without a doubt. He was a great president.

[T_Bone]

 :-(

Breaks my heart.

[iamaboringperson]

T_Bone wrote:


 :-(

Breaks my heart.

:-(

[frankb]

Venkman wrote:
I like Reagan, IMHO I think he was the best president the USA had in the last 20 years.

Ronald Reagan was the best President of the USA since Calvin Coolidge. Coolidge was great because he did nothing. Reagan was great because he was good. He deregulated many agencies, helped slow the devaluation of the dollar, and pissed off the leftist (liberals).

Pretty good in my book.

If he had been aware of the left-wing style power-grab that the Bush administration is doing (the so-called "Patriot Act"), he would be absolutly livid!

[redrumloa]

My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you I just signed legislation which outlaws Russia forever. The bombing begins in five minutes.

March 30, 1981 (to surgeons as he entered the operating room following his assassination attempt)
"I hope you're all Republicans."

:lol:
That's really sums up the man, what a great sense of humor. What a great president, what a great person.

The US needs another Ronnie  :-(

[cecilia]

The US needs another Ronnie

nah, america needs another George Washington!

at least ronnie could talk and write in coherent sentences. something that can't be said of the monkey in the white house, now!
 :-(


Associate yourself with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation for 'tis better to be alone than in bad company.
George Washington

The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
George Washington (1732 - 1799)

[T_Bone]

George was a good guy.


"It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it."
George Washington

"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington

"When firearms go, all goes. We need them every hour."
George Washington

"A free people ought...to be armed..."
--George Washington

I never mean, unless some particular circumstances should compel it, to possess another slave by purchase, it being among my first wishes to see some plan adopted, by which slavery in this country may be abolished by law.
--George Washington

'Tis our true policy to steer clear of permanent Alliances, with any portion of the foreign world.
George Washington, Farewell Address, September 19, 1796

"Can you then consent to be the only sufferers by this revolution, and retiring from the field, grow old in poverty, wretchedness and contempt? Can you consent to wade through the vile mire of dependency, and owe the miserable remnant of that life to charity, which has hitherto been spent in honor? If you can — GO — and carry with you the jest of tories and scorn of whigs — the ridicule, and what is worse, the pity of the world. Go, starve, and be forgotten!"
George Washington

[Speelgoedmannetje]

In the 19th century, here in NL, an association called "ANWB" (an association for travelling ppl) recommended ppl to have a weapon with them while they're travelling.

Thank goodness we're civilized now.

[T_Bone]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
In the 19th century, here in NL, an association called "ANWB" (an association for travelling ppl) recommended ppl to have a weapon with them while they're travelling.

Thank goodness we're civilized now.

You stopped traveling? What's wrong with travelling? ;-)

[Speelgoedmannetje]

T_Bone wrote:

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
In the 19th century, here in NL, an association called "ANWB" (an association for travelling ppl) recommended ppl to have a weapon with them while they're travelling.

Thank goodness we're civilized now.

You stopped traveling? What's wrong with travelling? ;-)

Syntax error:
main subject of sentence is carrying weapons while you're travelling, not just travelling

smartass ;-)

[cecilia]

how interesting that some see the penultimate of being american as having a gun.

strange, i see it as

getting an education - as much as your intellect can handle - dispite the sex of your body.

chosing your career no matter the sex of your body.

not being forced to marry or have children.

speaking your mind without fear of gov squelching you.

going anywhere you wish, and no one can stop you.

reading any book, listening to any music/radio show, any film, etc, etc.


Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.
George Washington (1732 - 1799)

[T_Bone]

cecilia wrote:
how interesting that some see the penultimate of being american as having a gun.

strange, i see it as

getting an education - as much as your intellect can handle - dispite the sex of your body.

chosing your career no matter the sex of your body.

not being forced to marry or have children.

speaking your mind without fear of gov squelching you.

going anywhere you wish, and no one can stop you.

reading any book, listening to any music/radio show, any film, etc, etc.

I see all those things... in addition to being able to have a gun ;-)

[cecilia]

I see all those things... in addition to being able to have a gun

maybe......it's just odd that having a gun is not only the FIRST thing mentioned, but the ONLY!

anyway, i just came across this statement by Ron Reagan Jr.

http://democrats.com/view.cfm?id=13544

some comments:

Reagan took a swipe at Bush during the 2000 GOP convention in Philadelphia, which featured a tribute to his father, telling the Washington Post's Lloyd Grove, "The big elephant sitting in the corner is that George W. Bush is simply unqualified for the job... What's his accomplishment? That he's no longer an obnoxious drunk?"

 :lol:

"My father had decades of experience in public life. He was president of his union, he campaigned for presidential candidates, he served two terms as governor of California -- and that was not a ceremonial office as it is in Texas. And he had already run for president, against Ford in '76, nearly unseating the sitting president in his own party. He knew where he was coming from, he had spent years thinking and speaking about his views. He didn't have to ask Dick Cheney what he thought.

Reagan says his family feels particularly alienated from the Republican Party over its opposition to embryonic stem cell research, which could have significant benefit for Alzheimer patients like his father. "Now ignorance is one thing, ignorance can be cured. But many of the Republican leaders opposing this research know better, people like [Senate Majority Leader] Bill Frist, who's a doctor, for God's sake. People like him are blocking it to pander to the 20 percent of their base who are mouth-breathers. And that's unconscionable -- there are lives at stake here. Stem cell research can revolutionize medicine, more than anything since antibiotics."

"And they told us, 'Don't worry about W. not knowing anything, good old Dick Cheney will be his minder.' Dick Cheney? And this was going to be compassionate conservatism? Dick Cheney is to the right of Genghis Khan, he wants to drill in your backyard, he wants to deny black people their rights --it was all there in his voting record for us to see. What were we, rubes?"

[Fade]

@ Cecilia
"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
George Washington (1732 - 1799)"
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I can't believe you historians are going to let Cecilia get away with attributing this quote to George Washington!

And no, it wasn't Thomas Jefferson or John Adams either.

Think "Treaty with Tripoli."

[cecilia]

I found alot of cool quotes here

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it!" - John Adams

(I LOVE this one)
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." -- Thomas Jefferson (letter to J. Adams April 11,1823)

James Madison, fourth president and father of the Constitution, was not religious in any conventional sense. "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."

the Separation of Church and State

"And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together." - James Madison in a letter to Edward Livingston, 10 July 1822

http://earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html

the "Founding Fathers" seemed to understand that if your country didn't actively support one religion over another, maybe one's neighbors wouldn't feel threatened.

http://www.wallbuilders.com/resources/search/detail.php?ResourceID=5

" Eaton's official correspondence during his service confirms that the conflict was a Muslim war against a Christian America.

For example, when writing to Secretary of State Timothy Pickering, Eaton apprised him of why the Muslims would be such dedicated foes:


Taught by revelation that war with the Christians will guarantee the salvation of their souls, and finding so great secular advantages in the observance of this religious duty [the secular advantage of keeping captured cargoes], their [the Muslims?] inducements to desperate fighting are very powerful."

So they made a treaty that said, hey, we aren't a radbid christian country, we don't hate you! lay off!

If only Bush had as much sense. but that's asking too much i guess.  :-(

[T_Bone]

 :bigcry: