Firefox goodness makes unexpected badness

[Lo]

Firefox takes like 30 seconds to load, which is bad...

Ah, but only the initial load is slow.  Load it at boottime while your fixing your coffee?  
(FireBird 0.7) :-)

[mikeymike]

Something that really surprised me recently was that the same date build of Firefox loads faster on Linux on my machine than on Windows.  Less than a few seconds generally.  On Windows I have a ramdisk set up so it's less than a second cold start.

[Tomas]

I guess I'll go with IE , but only because I'm tired of waiting forever for things to load....

But why not try out opera then? Opera is pretty much the fastest and most lightwight browser there is for windows.. It is fairly stable, has popup blocking and tabbed browsing aswell

[Tomas]

lorddef wrote:

why aren't you using Opera?

You mean why aren’t you using an oversized bag of human feces?

... actually make that a bag with advertisements on the side.

How the he*l can you call 3.3MB oversized? What other browser is smaller than that?

[adolescent]

cecilia wrote:
there is absolutely NO reason for anyone to use IE - which is the only real bag of feces.

Um, maybe because they want to?  Which is reason enough.  I use IE on my both my XP and Linux machines because it's fast, compatible, and works with everything I throw at it.  You can't say the same thing about Opera.  As for trojans or viruses, I've never gotten one on either system.

I never notice these ads which seem to interupt your life and i've been using Opera for the last year and a half.

You advocate the product so vigorously yet you don't spend the ~$40 to buy a real copy and support the company.  Sounds a little hypocritical to me...

[adolescent]

Tomas wrote:

How the he*l can you call 3.3MB oversized? What other browser is smaller than that?

It's actually 3.4MB.  And, if you don't have Java installed, it's a whopping 15.9MB.  Firefox is much smaller.  Heck, even IE is only 11.8MB.

[cecilia]

adolescent wrote:
You advocate the product so vigorously yet you don't spend the ~$40 to buy a real copy and support the company.  Sounds a little hypocritical to me...

listen, kid, I don't have any money to spend on ANYTHING. and I don't HAVE to buy opera. if I had a regular income I would consider it because it it one of the few windows -related products that is actually not a disapointment.

when you pay my rent, you can talk. until then, shut the F up.

[adolescent]

cecilia wrote:
listen, kid, I don't have any money to spend on ANYTHING. and I don't HAVE to buy opera. if I had a regular income I would consider it because it it one of the few windows -related products that is actually not a disapointment.

when you pay my rent, you can talk. until then, shut the F up.

Sorry Mom.  Don't take the fact that you can't afford a $40 piece of software out on me.  

[Tomas]

adolescent wrote:

Tomas wrote:

How the he*l can you call 3.3MB oversized? What other browser is smaller than that?

It's actually 3.4MB.  And, if you don't have Java installed, it's a whopping 15.9MB.  Firefox is much smaller.  Heck, even IE is only 11.8MB.

But since when did firefox come with java?? to get java with firefox, you have to download the sun java package, which is way bigger... IE is infact much bigger than 15megs...

Firefox is nearly twice as big, comes without java and opera has more features like built in irc client aswell...

I really like firefox myself, but what you claim is just bull..

[adolescent]

Tomas wrote:
But since when did firefox come with java?? to get java with firefox, you have to download the sun java package, which is way bigger... IE is infact much bigger than 15megs...

Firefox is nearly twice as big, comes without java and opera has more features like built in irc client aswell...

I really like firefox myself, but what you claim is just bull..

Bull?  Not intentional, but maybe I'm misunderstanding.  I went to Opera's download page and read the FAQ.  It made it sound like Java was required.  If that's not the case then I am wrong.

As for the IE size.  This is the total size of the source distribution I just downloaded for my Windows XP. Sure, there are required files in the OS that are not included in this size, and it doesn't include features like an IRC client.  I'll check how big my install on Wine is at home.  But it definately wasn't that much larger.

[GreggBz]

30 seconds?
It takes my SUN ultra 5 about 21 seconds to load Mozilla 1.6 from Solaris 9. (I just timed it) and that has 360Mhz of 64-Bit prossessing power! Not to mention 2 megs of level 2 cache for the love of god.

What's wrong with this picture?

[cecilia]

adolescent wrote:
Sorry Mom.  Don't take the fact that you can't afford a $40 piece of software out on me.  

as I've accomplished more in my life than you ever will, i don't need some pathetic loser child telling me what i should and shouldn't do.

[that_punk_guy]

adolescent wrote:

cecilia wrote:
listen, kid, I don't have any money to spend on ANYTHING. and I don't HAVE to buy opera. if I had a regular income I would consider it because it it one of the few windows -related products that is actually not a disapointment.

when you pay my rent, you can talk. until then, shut the F up.

Sorry Mom.  Don't take the fact that you can't afford a $40 piece of software out on me.  

What the f**k?

[Tomas]

Bull? Not intentional, but maybe I'm misunderstanding. I went to Opera's download page and read the FAQ. It made it sound like Java was required. If that's not the case then I am wrong.

I apologize for sounding a bit rude then :-)

I am personally a big mozilla fan myself, and it is the browser i use most of the time, but i got a bit pissed when opera was called oversized, as it is the smallest and fastest browser i have seen for windows.

[the_leander]

cecelia chill out hun, he really isn't worth getting uptight about :-)

adolescent pack it in being such an a$$hat.

[adolescent]

the_leander wrote:
cecelia chill out hun, he really isn't worth getting uptight about :-)

adolescent pack it in being such an a$$hat.

Very mature.  And to think, I'm supposed to be the adolescent here.