Kickstart 3.1 Boot Delay

[ACE]

Been an K/S 3.0 user for years on my A4000.  But I recently got hold of an Cyberstorm PPC and K/S 3.1 + O/S 3.5 (and for completeness a Picasso IV GFX Card).

Now I remember hearing about K/S 3.1 IDE delay and O/S 3.5 patches needing reboots.  Can someone enlighten me more about this, and the best ways to reduce this?

I also am trying to get a CF card to boot of this system, again can get it to work with my old computer but the new one is a little more tricky.  With ~15Mb to play with what of O/S 3.5 should I install on this card?

Thanks in advance.

[adolescent]

The IDE delay is built in, so there's not much you can do with it.  If you don't have anything on the IDE channel, then the timeout will be much longer.  You can build an adapter that tricks the interface into thinking there is a device on it if needed.  Otherwise, the drive spin up delay isn't a big deal.  I don't even notice it.

BlizKick from Aminet can apply all the 3.5/3.9 system patches, as well as move the ROM to fast RAM, with one reboot.  Check it out on Aminet.

[Vincent]

IDE boot delay with no drive on the chain is 30 seconds, but if you're installing OS3.5 I don't think you'll worry about that.  It only takes a second or two to start booting from an IDE HD.

[x56h34]

If you can make it, the hardware hack is recommended. It instantly disables the IDE chain seek for devices and switches over to the next chain by priority.

My CSPPC starts booting the hard drive connected to it within 3-4 seconds after power up or reset.

[Matt_H]

I *think* all the important parts of 3.5 will fit on a 15MB drive. Just make sure you don't install the backdrops! Those are 20MB or so. You also may want to leave out the skins to Amplifier and PlayCD.

[Doobrey]

ACE wrote:
I also am trying to get a CF card to boot of this system, again can get it to work with my old computer but the new one is a little more tricky.

What problems are you having with the CF card?

I got a 64mb CF card and IDE adapter the other week,blooming thing boots to a WB screen in just under 7 seconds  :-o
 I did a "race" between my PC and the 1200, and the PC had only just finished its memory check when the 1200 had Workbench up and running.. :-)

[ACE]

I'm still having problems with setting up the CF card...

Basically I have a four port IDE adaptor, with...

PRIMARY : Hard Drive ... CD ROM

SECONDARY : CF Card (Set as Master) I know I can't boot from the secondary port!

If I connected this together before it would not find the CD ROM Drive and give me a rather corrupt (two cloned OCS workbench screens) from my Picasso-IV Card.  So I updated the atapi.device from my other computer, now it boots but dosen't show me my formated CF Card as on my other (K/S 3.0) computer.  If I go into Hard Drive Tool box it tells me I'm missing resource.library v44.  It is in my library dir but sys info doesn't pick it up.

I'm wondering whats missing form my startup-sequence?


I also tried booting from the 0/S 3.5 emergency floppy with just the CF and CD ROM connected, but again it can't find the CD-Rom drive.  So I can't try a fresh install on the CF card.  Thought it might be the cable, but as I'm still writing this you can guess the result!

Finally I tried to do the whole thing on my 3.0 machine installed 3.1 on the CF card (but can't do any more without swapping the ROMs over!) tried to reconnect to the K/S 3.1 machine but it won't boot!!!!

Any suggestions?

[Vincent]

Thoroughly check your HD for another copy of resource.library.  It might be that a prog that starts on boot up is using resource.library that's stored in it's location instead of the Libs: one, and if it's an earlier one, that'll be the only one in memory.

If you do find one, make a note of where it is (in a txt file is handy), create a new dir anywhere else on the HD and move the lib into there (along with the txt file if you made one).

Reboot.  Hopefully now HDToolbox won't complain about not having V44.

If there is no other resource.library on your HD try copying HDToolbox from the 3.5 CD over the one on your HD, reboot and try that.

I've had no experience with CF Cards, but part of it sounds like a library conflict :-)

[Doobrey]

ACE wrote:
If I go into Hard Drive Tool box it tells me I'm missing resource.library v44.  It is in my library dir but sys info doesn't pick it up.

Ah, that old chesnut.. There`s several things that can cause that, and it has nothing to do with the library not being there !
Have a look at the Official OS3.9 FAQfor more info