Stock traders are idiots.

[mdwh2]

Dan wrote:

mdwh2 wrote:
There are benefits to people without "the gold" too. I like being able to choose who to work for, rather than having some central authority choose what I do.

Socialism!=Soviet

But socialism isn't mutually exclusive to capitalism.

If FluffyMcDeath (or whoever) wants to advocate a specific alternative to capitalism, then he should say what that alternative is. All the while it's just capitalism bashing, all I can do is pick particular examples - a centrally controlled communist society being the most common example.

[KennyR]

mdwh2 wrote:
If FluffyMcDeath (or whoever) wants to advocate a specific alternative to capitalism, then he should say what that alternative is. All the while it's just capitalism bashing, all I can do is pick particular examples - a centrally controlled communist society being the most common example.

He's speaking in absolutes, which rarely exist in politics. Democracy, for instance, is far from true democracy. True socialism is communism, or anarchy, depending on viewpoint. True capitalism is not limited by anything, not even ethics; so it's a sort of non-collective fascism. I think we'd both agree that absolutes are undesirable, no? Unfortunately, there are many who don't.

Socialists, in general, are just people who believe the balance between true socialism and true capitalism should lean towards socialism, in the interests of social justice. Life without capitalism is not an option. For people who aren't insane or insanely rich, life without socialism is equally bad.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

mdwh2 wrote:
There are benefits to people without "the gold" too. I like being able to choose who to work for, rather than having some central authority choose what I do.

Well, in this world, you can choose between two authorities: MacDonald's and Fidel Castro.
There is no future for retailers.

[iamaboringperson]

True socialism is communism,

Socialists, in general, are just people who believe the balance between true socialism and true capitalism should lean towards socialism,

What does that mean?

How far should it lean toward socialism? All the way toward communism?

Why should they prefer socialism anyway?

Is this viewpoint the reason the are so zealous? Does that justify how they always fight for socialsm, even if that means supporting what is immoral, and advocating socialism in dishonest ways?

[iamaboringperson]

First, you are immediately wrong. Capitalism is an ideology and not a result of anything but the ideology of capitalism.

Capitalism is no system.

It's more accurately described as the lack of a system such as 'communism', 'fascism' or 'socialism'.

[FluffyMcDeath]

iamaboringperson wrote:

First, you are immediately wrong. Capitalism is an ideology and not a result of anything but the ideology of capitalism.

Capitalism is no system.

It's more accurately described as the lack of a system such as 'communism', 'fascism' or 'socialism'.

Capitalism is not a system as you say, but requires a huge system of regulation and enforcement to make it work.

[iamaboringperson]

[color=00CC00]*Ahem*[/color]I want to know what means "investing classes"




Do I go to the "investing classes" to learn how to invest? :-D