C128 vs Apple IIc+

[Varthall]

McNorris wrote:
Oh yeah, one more consideration...

How to get disk images or files from a modern computer to a C128D?

I made a cable for my 1571 drive to attach it to my old Amiga. I read and write files with Easy1541.

Varthall

[Varthall]

angrybrit wrote:
I saw screenshots of Doom on the Intellivision too.  So there might be a chance it could be done. :-)

Are you referring to the screenshots of a Doom clone for the Atari VCS2600? They were fake.

Varthall

[redrumloa]

How many games actually were written for native C128 mode?

Commercial games? Probably about 10 that I've heard of.

Anything to take advantage of that 2 Mhz?

AFAIK only Infocom text games.

[redrumloa]

Well there is MOOD for the C64.


A round from the rocket launcher hits the wall and explodes on impact.

[TheMagicM]

I agree w/redrumola... 128D > Apple II/IIe/c/*

[xeron]

@TheMagicM

Speaking as a Commodore fan, I still think you should check out the Apple ][ GS before including that "*" wildcard Sure the "classic" Apple ][ had crappy graphics compared to the C64, but the GS is something special

I'd say Apple ][ GS > 128D > Apple ][/e/c. Although the 128D has a shedload more software

Some Apple ][ GS demos: (a good emulator for windows is KEGS)

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=11790
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=11796
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=11792
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=11788
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=11793
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=11881
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=11789

[TheMagicM]

xeron:
no, I meant > all the IIe/c/+ versions...

I remember in jr. high the c64 vs. Apple IIe/c wars... hehehe

btw, thanks for the links.. I've *never* used a GS, but those gfx look awesome!  What are the specs on the GS ?

[McTrinsic]

The GS rather compares to the Amiga.

It was a freaky weirdo, some inbetween machine when Apple didnt want to let go fo the II series and on the other side wanted to go ahead.

The Apple II has the problem of sound... does anyone actually own a mockingboard??

And, some bizarre shifts in the display. You get some pink around sprites and moving objects. When I used an emulator recently I suddenly remembered that crappy display.

The emulator programmer said "its not a bug, its a feature" lol

I must admit, the C128D was born dead as well as the GS though. CBM wanted to make a better machine but were trapped with the success of the C64 and didnt want to let get of that userbase. They wanted to offer a "natural" upgrade.

Have fun,
McTrinsic

[jutrem]

 The 128D was a nice machine, I had one. I did some programming in 128 mode which was a lot better than the c64 mode. There should have been more 128 support software. Developers could have released games and apps that would use 128 features if detected. It was like the amiga scene in the early 90's, having a 3000 or 4000 but having to run (a500) software that didn't take use the extra cpu and graphic power.  

 The 128D was even better than the original 128. The separate keyboard and desktop case made it more comfortable to use.

[drHirudo]

The AppleIIGS is an unique machine, because it have backwards compatibility with the 8 bits Apples, thanks to the 65816 CPU, and it's still 16 bit and there was no split between the dudes with the 8 bit toys and the 16 bit "monsters" at the time. I can't imagine what it could have been if the Amiga was designed to be compatible with the C64 at first place.

[-BobW-]

I just pulled mu C128 out of storage this weekend and was delighted to see that all my old disks seem to still work.

It was amusing to see my son get impatient waiting for the games to load.  He was convinced that it couldn't possibly take that long for a game to load.  :lol:

[Madgun68]

I don't know if anyone else followed the links from Xeron's post, but if you're interested in seeing what the GS can do and are using a browser capable of ActiveX, check out FTA. They've got an ActiveX GS emulator with some demos and games to check out. Pretty impressive stuff imo.

[justthatgood]

@Madgun68

Ha ha, I still have my Apple IIgs too. Though I had to replace the original keyboard with one of the Macintosh ones, it was really freaky that it could use so much of the ADB stuff.

It's sitting on the shelves opposite of my 3 Amigas

[angrybrit]

Varthall wrote:

Are you referring to the screenshots of a Doom clone for the Atari VCS2600? They were fake.

Varthall

I was referring to this: http://spatula-city.org/~im14u2c/intv/doom/

[Karlos]

And did you look at the bottom of the page?

The part where it reads

Note: This was an April Fool's Joke.
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Last update: Apr 1, 2002.

[iamaboringperson]

McNorris wrote:
What do you think?

I still mess w/ my IIc+, but a dude might want to trade a C128D for it.

What do you think had better graphics (sound is a given)?

I own a IIc, and I would probably perfer a C128.

The graphics are better, the sound is better, the C128 has a 6502(or 6510) AND Z-80.

Better keyboard, better software...

It's really better all round.