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Offline darksun9210Topic starter

Amiga and VNC
« on: April 20, 2004, 02:51:13 PM »
last night i was trawling through my amiga active cover CD's looking for a TCP IP stack that didn't time out after 30 mins, and found a VNC client for the amiga. after grining stupidly and thinking "oh my m*****f****** god, how cool is that" i was wondering, after repeated "software error - suspend or reboot" if anyone else has got it to work?

setup:-
standard (unexpanded) A1200 with pcmcia network card running miami and OS3.0

networked to a PC running VNC viewer i use to look at a couple of other PCs on the network.

is it just the fact that i am running out of ram? (600k left after loading TCP/IP stack) has anyone else used this and to what degrees of success?

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Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2004, 03:24:18 PM »
I have used the VNC-viewer called VVA many times on my Amiga without real problems. I have used it with Miiami, AmiTCP and Genesis.

The machine was an A1200 with OS3.5, lots of RAM and Cybergraphix. (BlizzardPPC 060@50MHz, 603@240MHz and BlizzardVision).

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Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2004, 03:35:01 PM »
I think it requires a 040.

More info here: http://dspach.free.fr/amiga/vva/
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Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2004, 03:44:52 PM »
Yep... VVA works like a charm with CyberGraphX and some extra RAM.  I've used it on Miami and Genesis, as well.  I used to be able to open the VNC session in a window on my Amiga Workbench.  It seems only able to allocate a new screen now, though.  Strange.  The window on workbench was almost surreal to see.
 

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Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2004, 04:46:27 PM »
From the VVA.guide (requirements):
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In order to use VVA you need the following minimum configuration

        - An Amiga capable to display at least 256 colors, AGA or gfx-card
        - CPU 68020 or better
        - AmigaOS 3.0 and up
        - A TCP/IP-stack, like Miami, AmiTCP (v3 and up), or Genesis
        - A running VNC-Server anywhere in your reachable network
        - reqtools.library

In order to take advantage of more than 256 colors, a gfx-card is required
with CyberGraphics or Picasso96 RTG software.


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My own experience:
I run successfully the VVA client on my A600 with an accelerator (030@40), but I think I encountered problems when I had pulled the FPU out for heat problems (the program couldn't start?).
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2fast, 2furious:
Sorry, never used an AGA app in A600 :oops:
This was for another remote access program that I used, an X-server... So don't consider what I wrote above (although the reqs are valid).


Anyway, you will certainly need some extra memory, for the client and the vva-screen itself (precious chip mem, if you don't have a gfx card).


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Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2004, 04:48:32 PM »
Damn! Yeap, Cass is right... ;-)
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Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2004, 04:54:18 PM »
Speaking of vnc, have anyone tried the amivnc vnc server from aminet?

I got intrigued by this thread and tried it out. It works, but the colours are extremely messed up. I'm running a p96 1024x768/16b workbench, but amivnc reports a connection being made with 1024x768 2bpp, which I suspect is bitplanes or something, which would explain the colour messup...

Anyone managed to get it to show the colours correctly? I'm using vnc admin or something on this wintel box.

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-Kenneth Straarup.
 

Offline darksun9210Topic starter

Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2004, 05:28:47 PM »
right.

point 1. have lots of memory free. i'm guessing about a meg to hold the screen image in ram? (non gfx card)
(must get accelerator back)

point 2. FPU possibly required.

i was trying to run AmiVNC and there is a version there for planar screenmodes, as well as a version for chunky and planar modes, as i wanted to export to the PC i was using the planar version. maybe thats why you have a mess of colour?

beyond this you guys have shown its not impossible :-)
kinda glad its not just me who plays with this stuff. :crazy:
mhahaha (ideas for remote connection into home network, and then vnc into amiga from work... )

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Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2004, 05:37:10 PM »
if any browser on the amiga supports java (:-D) run realVNC and then use the java viewer...
 

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Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2004, 05:59:04 PM »
@elendil
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Speaking of vnc, have anyone tried the amivnc vnc server from aminet?

It's very badly written and very very very slow (it scans the whole display periodically, only supports one format etc). There is no proper Amiga vnc server.

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if any browser on the amiga supports java run realVNC and then use the java viewer...

Hehe, that was funny.
 

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Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2004, 06:48:20 PM »
Ahh, crap :/

Oh well, thanks for informing me. Guess I'll have to walk to the amiga every time I want something done.

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Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2004, 06:52:41 PM »
This is a coincidence.... I was just trying to get VNC to work. I want to connect from my work PC to my home PC but I don't understand how I can do that seeing as the work PC would never be able to access my home PC via the internet.

Is it possible to access a home PC from work over the internet?
 

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Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2004, 07:03:44 PM »
@BigBenAussie

Sure it is possible, but not a safe habit to leave a full remote access ready for everybody... (you'll have to leave the server's port available through the firewall)

VNC is a cross-platform solution (ex. Amiga-Windows), but if you use PCs at your work also, you may prefer a more native solution (XWindows for Unix systems, remote desktop for windows etc.).
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Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2004, 07:13:07 PM »
VNC can be made safe if you're running a computer as router which has a secure shell server running. This is explained pretty good at the AT&T site/faq. I'll try to dig it up if anyone's interested.

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Re: Amiga and VNC
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2004, 07:13:34 PM »
OK. I'm sorry this is off topic but....I'm kinda getting desperate and I'm really determined to do it.
How do I leave the server's port available through the firewall?

I'm running XP Pro at home.
I have a router box with a built in firewall at home....I guess I would have to remove it.