Amiga, Inc: Close That Open Hardware!

[Helgis75]

Right...thank you for the advice---T-Bone...

Can we make a new thread? Like "My Mothers' Lovely Cooking"? :-D

[Madgun68]

I didn't blame their partners. Amiga Inc alone.
Ok, I did blame Eyetech for lying on the bug issue
but that's a different matter. They claimed that it's
all fud and that there's no bug and a week after that
they posted that they now have a fix. You can't fix
a non-existing bug, can you?

Oh, as if both sides aren't guilty of spin.

Ever think that Eyetech said there wasn't a bug because they knew the issue was being fixed? I seriously doubt that MAI implemented fixes for the chipset in one week. (And since Eyetech is partnered with MAI, they would have known about it.)

Wouldn't one also think that Genesi would have some insight in to the fix too? Seems that if they're doing good good business with MAI they would have been told about it.. Yet they put all the spin around the "april" fix and make it appear that the Teron boards aren't going to function properly without it.

"We'll work with you guys if you use our boards instead of theirs." - Yeah.. Wait until after all the contracts are made and such, then announce something like this. I have a good feeling that Genesi KNEW that they wouldn't do it. But hey, look, those guys don't want to cooperate with us.

There's more to a lake than the surface of the water.

[AmiGR]

HAH! The last time it was on show was at the Aachen show, with 30 machines running it nicely.
Check your facts. The pointer was jumping cause
debug was on and (afaik) driver probs on that show
you were talking about. MorphOS is running QUITE
nicely and everyday, more people are able to tell you.

But tracking down AmigaOS/AmigaOne-fans doesn't help you!
--

You don't know me and neither you know if I do what
you say.

[Helgis75]

Well, i don't care about MorphOS...I'm sorry for this thread, but there is also another person waiting for the AmigaOne G4-XE as me...and his name is simply Kay...:-)

I have nothing further to say about this. It's starting to sound quite childish...

[Helgis75]

Look, you sound like a wise and nice guy at the deeper end. Why not quit arguing? It's no point of doing so...When AmigaOne comes out, people will start to look at it for what it actually IS, and not for what it ISN'T....

Fine, you like MorphOS and Pegasos better, right? Then go for it..and let us other people who want the AmigaOne and AmigaOS 4 go for them without being attacked...

It remind me about "My computer is better than yours" thread that have been served for years...It's really unnecessary...

If you really love the Pegasos/MorphOS-thing, then go for it..if that make you comfortable...We don't blame you for that, so don't blame me and the other for waiting for the AmigaOne/AmigaOS 4...

Again, lets shake hands and leave with peace...

Good evening...

[AmiGR]

Ever think that Eyetech said there wasn't a bug because they knew the issue was being fixed? I seriously doubt that MAI implemented fixes for the chipset in one week. (And since Eyetech is partnered with MAI, they would have known about it.)
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Ehm, I know up to who made the fix specifically, so
don't bother.

Wouldn't one also think that Genesi would have some insight in to the fix too?
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Genesi knew about this for a long long time. They were the ones to prove that the bug exists. MAI
weren't able to reproduce it till Gerald Carda visited
them and showed em. Also, guess why he spend
2 weeks there .

Seems that if they're doing good good business with MAI they would have been told about it.. Yet they put all the spin around the "april" fix and make it appear that the Teron boards aren't going to function properly without it.

The April fix is not the same as the fix Eyetech has.
The April fixes that bug (+others) without the need
of software tweaks. The fix eyetech has is an
HW+SW one.

[AmiGR]

I didn't blame you about anything. I just believe that
liking AOne+OS4 doesn't mean that you should
worship Amiga Inc as well. Yes, I do like Peg and
MOS and I will buy that combo. On the other hand
I will also buy OS4.

[Helgis75]

Well, the wait for my A1G4XE has been fustrating yes...but it doesn't matter..Thank you for clearing it out, AmiGR...

On my A1G4XE, i will run LinuxPPC as well, too, with MacOS X Jaguar under it...

[Helgis75]

To AmiGR...

This is what I found at Extreme Amigas' AmigaOne-site...
02/January/2003 AmigaOne XE systems experience further delay.
We are assured by Eyetech that all issues with the release of the XE boards are resolved, and as a result, we have an improved board! Eyetech has only stated that will be shipping the XE boards by the end of January 2003. This means with building & testing of the equipment, we expect to be able to ship AmigaOne systems by approximately February 17, 2003. All customers with AmigaOne orders that receive AmigaOne systems prior to AmigaOS4 being released will automatically be put on the AmigaOne Developers Mailinglist.  

[Alkemyst]

by AmiGR on 2003/1/12 16:50:19

I didn't blame you about anything. I just believe that
liking AOne+OS4 doesn't mean that you should
worship Amiga Inc as well. Yes, I do like Peg and
MOS and I will buy that combo. On the other hand
I will also buy OS4.

Most ppl who want Aone/Aos4 dont.
You just asume they do.

And even if they did SO Frigging what.
PPL are free to worship what they like as long as no harm comes from it.

Some ppl worship Genesi
Some ppl worship Amiga.inc
Some ppl worship Eyetech
some ppl worship Hyperion
some ppl worship God
Some ppl worship ect......

All have their ouwn reason for doing so & none have to justify to you for doing so.
You may ask tho.But dont go on & on & on about why why why all the time.
As you ill start to sound just as bad as them.

As long as no one tries to force you to worship something that you dont want to then there is no reason to get upset about it.

[AmiGR]

I'm upset cause some people reply (no, not helgis) as if I killed their mother every time I say anything
bad about Amiga Inc. Amiga Inc doesn't deserve to be worshiped. Anyway, I don't worship anybody and
I think that worshiping any company is just stupid.

[Paul_Gadd]

@AmiGR

I'm upset cause some people reply (no, not helgis) as if I killed their mother every time I say anything bad about Amiga Inc.

Thats the problem, people are so against anyone what says  anything negative about wonderfull Amiga inc,

I wonder what MAGIC has Amiga inc done to earn them so many obsessed fans,

FFS the company can not even sort out t-shirts.

[Alkemyst]

I'm upset cause some people reply (no, not helgis) as if I killed their mother every time I say anything
bad about Amiga Inc. Amiga Inc doesn't deserve to be worshiped. Anyway, I don't worship anybody and
I think that worshiping any company is just stupid.

I see the same happen from the other side when ppl say anything bad about Genesi.
So live with it.

[AmiGR]

I didn't see anyone doing like THAT.
BTW, you seem to think that there are only 2 camps.
You classify anyone against Amiga Inc as a MorphOS
user. Since when cheesegrate and Dammy are MorphOS users?

[Alkemyst]

by AmiGR on 2003/1/12 21:46:45

I didn't see anyone doing like THAT.
BTW, you seem to think that there are only 2 camps.
You classify anyone against Amiga Inc as a MorphOS
user. Since when cheesegrate and Dammy are MorphOS users?

I Dont remember saying anyone whos against Amiga.inc is a MOS supporter.

Pls point me to where i said that.

Or is that once again something you made up in your own mind again.

And that fact you dont see the other side is your bias.

[AmiGR]

You was in the plural number.

And about not seeing the other side... I was in that
side for A LONG time... I know what happens and
that's why I'm not an A Inc fanatic anymore. Yes, I
was at some time. I support the Pegasos and
MorphOS and I'll support OS4 but I'll never support
Amiga Inc again.