Amiga, Inc: Close That Open Hardware!

[gary_c]

Alkemyst wrote:

As MOS does not run on the Aone yet either.
The primarily reason is Genesi.

I believe Genesi staff said MorphOS does run on a Theron motherboard and so it will run on an AmigaOne unless something's been added to prevent it.

-- gary_c

[Damion]

Samface wrote:

>The Microsoft approach of supporting the most
>common hardware standard and let the hardware
>manufactures figure out the rest simply isn't
>feasible on the PPC market. There is no common
>PPC hardware standard.

Hmmmm, great point. So shouldn't A - Inc (the
software people) worry more about the adapta-
bility of their OS to these emerging (and
established in some cases) standards as opposed
to forcing their own set of such on a slim
userbase, and demanding other companies to adhere
to their idea of standards? I'd be the
first in the line of I'm sure many to allow a
small software firm (no insult intended) to
dictate and control/limit my hardware products,
that's for sure. It makes perfect business sense,
especially considering the vast throngs of users
imbedded into the current market.  

I agree 100%, this market is way to small for the
Microsoft approach.

amigaguy cool... I dont mind at all...hehehehee

[Damion]

AmigaGuy, nicely done. Perhaps I too shall create  
my own twisted version of LX -8...  

do it do it do it

[AmigaHeretic]

Last one..promise

no way the one before this one was alot better.

[AmigaHeretic]

Yeah, this one kinda stinks too.  I need to get some sleep...

ohhh come on... I thought we where all gonna use knockoff LX-8 avatars.

[Damion]

damn...I'll get it up tomorrow at work, these old
ghetto amiga paint programs won't scale or size it
down enough.

[Alkemyst]

@gary_c

I already know about that.

But just cos they have been able to run MOS on it,it does not mean they will release it for it.

That would give the Aone an advantage.

[Alkemyst]

@ T-Bone

Ofcorse Linux will work across the MAI range.
& so should Aos4, Aone-SE Aone-XE  there's 2 already.

But ppl thinking anything saying POP will work cos its a set standard & that was my point.

Look at VHS. SP,LP,ET,SVHS.

if ppl applied their thinking of POP to VHS they would try to run a LP recorded video in a SP only player.

[Kronos]

@Alkemyst

And that is the difference:

Genesi:
We decide on what HW MorphOS runs [full stop]

AInc/Hyperion:
We decide on what HW OS4 will run, but we gone put the blame
for it on the HW-producers.

a) I don't believe that the licence is really free
b) Even it would be free it would still be a "no no" for most HW-firms.

Apple ? NO! Tratech ? NO! TerraSoft ? NO! Genesi ? NO!

What do "we" get ?
One rather clueless retailer (Eyetech) and maybe 2 vapor products
(Merlancia and the Shark).



Whooooopeeeeee !!

Looking back you might notice that Hyperion talked about running OS4
on the Pegasos and even Macs, but got  rather silent when they realized
that they had underestimated the work involved and therefore no
resources to do "hostile ports".

[bloodline]

The idea of the Dongle seems simple to me.

Amiga Inc. need a computer hardware platform, so they promise Eyetech that the new OS will only run on the AmigaOne, i.e. the machine EyeTech are building. They do this by requiring a Dongle. Eyetech are happy as they know that they will sell a few computers, Amiga Inc. are happy becuase they have some new hardware to call Amiga.

Once both the companies have got their products out, I don't believe for a moment that Amiga Inc. will keep the Dongle requirement in, or at least they will be flexible as to how they licence the OS.

This is the only way I can understand the current business model, it simply doesn't work any other way.

This Dongle is simply a way of making sure both companies can cover their costs, to set the ball rolling so to speak. Once the ball is rolling we may well see a lot of changes.

These are just my (wrong?) opinions and not those of any groups or organisations I may be connect with.

[Paul_Gadd]

Yes, you won't get the AmigaOS4 for free, if that's what you expected

I would not expect OS4 to be free at all,

do you really think another distributor would give you the same hardware support for AmigaOS4

No one would really care if they could buy the same hardware for $100 cheaper elsewhere,

Its all about restricting the user base, all i see it is doing is giving people an ultimatum and not a choice,

Pathetic.

[ple3003]

OS4 will be pirated but i would say the PPC card version the most, give it a few days/week after it is released before a ISO is uploaded to warez sites.

Do you even realize the amount of trouble theese people are getting themselves into. I, among the majority of the community would make their life not worth living. :-x  Am i being realistic? Fill me in please...

Some other people's point of views:

-"325. Ross Heinlein
I'm in developement of a POP board, the "barbie" http://penguinppc.org/dev/pop/ If I can make AOS4 run on this, I'll contribute my sources/drivers, if not, well, one board is better than none, eh? Barbie will NOT be licensing AOS, we don't deal with software companies, it's not our job to chase down OS developers. If you'd like to work on this board, fine, I'll help, if not, that's fine too. Your policy guarantees that your OS will only run on boards specifically manufactured for that purpose, which is very shortsighted considering many PPC boards are about to begin developement due to recently available PPC chipset solutions. You need to realise that as Hardware manufacturers, your OS licensing is NOT our concern, we just build hardware, we don't play games and tailor separate product lines for every "niche-OS" who has crazy ideas, you should rethink yours. I do not speak for my employer in a manner I can be held accountable for, but what I say is a valid representation of their (and my) views on the matter"

-"710. Fred Koler
I will not buy Amiga OS if I am 'locked in' to only approved hardware. I learned my lesson last time"

found it at this site...